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The full conversation between J.K. Rowling and Emma Watson for Wonderland Magazine is now available.

Since Saturday’s article in The Sunday Times teased interesting revelations from the Harry Potter author about Ron and Hermione’s relationship, readers have been eager to see the full transcript.

The extended, unabbreviated interview certainly offers more insight into Rowling’s feelings about Ron/Hermione. For example, the author says that the couple has “fundamental incompatibility,” and that in “some ways Hermione and Harry are a better fit.”

Rowling tells a brief story about the first time she realized the potential between the two characters, pointing to when they were together in the tent in Deathly Hallows, and says she felt it “quite strong.”

After Rowling and Watson discuss how Hermione was there for Harry all the way through – which can’t be said for Ron – Rowling seems to have a little sympathy for Ron/Hermione. “Oh, maybe she and Ron will be alright with a bit of counseling,” she says. “He needs to work on his self-esteem issues and she needs to work on being a little less critical.”

The full transcript for your interpretation follows…

Watson: I thought we should discuss Hermione… I’m sure you’ve heard this a million times but now that you have written the books, do you have a new perspective on how you relate to Hermione and the relationship you have with her or had with her?

Rowling: I know that Hermione is incredibly recognizable to a lot of readers and yet you don’t see a lot of Hermiones in film or on TV except to be laughed at. I mean that the intense, clever, in some ways not terribly self-aware, girl is rarely the heroine and I really wanted her to be the heroine. She is part of me, although she is not wholly me. I think that is how I might have appeared to people when I was younger, but that is not really how I was inside.

What I will say is that I wrote the Hermione/Ron relationship as a form of wish fulfillment. That’s how it was conceived, really. For reasons that have very little to do with literature and far more to do with me clinging to the plot as I first imagined it, Hermione with Ron.

Watson: Ah.

Rowling: I know, I’m sorry, I can hear the rage and fury it might cause some fans, but if I’m absolutely honest, distance has given me perspective on that. It was a choice I made for very personal reasons, not for reasons of credibility. Am I breaking people’s hearts by saying this? I hope not.

Watson: I don’t know. I think there are fans out there who know that too and who wonder whether Ron would have really been able to make her happy.

Rowling: Yes exactly.

Watson: And vice versa.

Rowling: It was a young relationship. I think the attraction itself is plausible but the combative side of it… I’m not sure you could have got over that in an adult relationship, there was too much fundamental incompatibility. I can’t believe we are saying all of this – this is Potter heresy!

In some ways Hermione and Harry are a better fit, and I’ll tell you something very strange. When I wrote Hallows, I felt this quite strongly when I had Hermione and Harry together in the tent! I hadn’t told [Steven] Kloves that and when he wrote the script he felt exactly the same thing at exactly the same point.

Watson: This is just so interesting because when I was doing the scene, I said to David [Heyman]: “This isn’t in the book, she didn’t write this.” I’m not sure I am comfortable insinuating something however subtle it is!

Rowling: Yes, but David and Steve – they felt what I felt when writing it.

Watson: That is so strange.

Rowling: And actually I liked that scene in the film, because it was articulating something I hadn’t said but I had felt. I really liked it and I thought that it was right. I think you do feel the ghost of what could have been in that scene.

Watson: It’s a really haunting scene. It is funny because it really divided people. Some people loved that scene and some people really didn’t.

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Rowling: Yes, some people utterly hated it. But that is true of so many really good scenes in books and films; they evoke that strong positive/negative feeling. I was fine with it, I liked it.

Watson: I remember really loving shooting those scenes that don’t have any dialogue, where you are just kind of trying to express a moment in time and a feeling without saying anything. It was just Dan and I spontaneously sort of trying to convey an idea and it was really fun.

Rowling: And you got it perfectly, you got perfectly the sort of mixture of awkwardness and genuine emotion, because it teeters on the edge of “What are we doing? Oh come on let’s do it anyway,” which I thought was just right for that time.

Watson: I think it was just the sense that in the moment they needed to be together and be kids and raise each others morale.

Rowling: That is just it, you are so right. All this says something very powerful about the character of Hermione as well. Hermione was the one that stuck with Harry all the way through that last installment, that very last part of the adventure. It wasn’t Ron, which also says something very powerful about Ron. He was injured in a way, in his self-esteem, from the start of the series. He always knew he came second to fourth best, and then he had to make friends with the hero of it all and that’s a hell of a position to be in, eternally overshadowed. So Ron had to act out in that way at some point.

But Hermione’s always there for Harry. I remember you sent me a note after you read Hallows and before you starting shooting, and said something about that, because it was Hermione’s journey as much as Harry’s at the end.

Watson: I completely agree and the fact that they were true equals and the fact that she really said goodbye to her family makes it her sacrifice too.

Rowling: Yes, her sacrifice was massive, completely. A very calculated act of bravery. That is not an “in the moment” act of bravery where emotion carries you through, that is a deliberate choice.

Watson: Exactly.

Rowling: I love Hermione.

Watson: I love her too.

Rowling: Oh, maybe she and Ron will be alright with a bit of counseling, you know. I wonder what happens at wizard marriage counseling? They’ll probably be fine. He needs to work on his self-esteem issues and she needs to work on being a little less critical.

Watson: I think it makes sense to me that Ron would make friends with the most famous wizard in the school because I think life presents to you over and over again your biggest and most painful fear – until you conquer it. It just keeps coming up.

Rowling: This is so true, it has happened in my own life. The issue keeps coming up because you are drawn to it and you are putting yourself in front of it all the time. At a certain point you have to choose what to do about it and sometimes conquering it is choosing to say: I don’t want that anymore, I’m going to stop walking up to you because there is nothing there for me. But yes, you’re so right, that’s very insightful. Ron’s used to playing second fiddle. I think that’s a comfortable role for him, but at a certain point he has to be his own man, doesn’t he?

Watson: Yes, and until he does it is unresolved. It is unfinished business. So maybe life presented this to him enough times until he had to make a choice and become the man that Hermione needs.

Rowling: Just like her creator, she has a real weakness for a funny man. These uptight girls, they do like them funny.

Watson: They do like them funny, they need them funny.

Elsewhere in their interview in Wonderland Magazine, Rowling touches on the Fantastic Beasts movie amongst other things about her life and career.

This magazine is available for purchase now. Watch a behind the scenes look at one of Watson’s photoshoots for Wonderland, and visit their official site for more.

  • Ono

    What a deep disappointment this is. The destruction of the locket scene was so brilliant because we knew that Ron’s fears and insecurities were totally baseless. (We knew that because that is how Jo wrote the book.) But here we have not only Emma but Jo herself saying, “You know, that horcrux had a point . . .” You should have left well enough alone Jo.

    • Lana

      So basically Ron was right!

      • Ono

        Exactly.

      • Gary65

        No he wasn’t. He was totally and utterly wrong. If he had stayed, instead of running off, nothing would have ever happened. The Harry/Hermione spark only showed itself because he abandoned them. They were miserable and looking for some sort of comfort. That’s not the same as being genuinely attracted to each other.

        • Lana

          I can easily defend Ron, but I’ve seen the depth of your aversion to Ron’s character before and see no point in arguing. I can understand Ron and his perspective and he’s still my favourite out of three. P.s. yes, I agree on them being miserable without Ron, moreover the reading of that part was miserable enough for me. P.s.s what I said was based on this interview.

        • http://benchpressabear.tumblr.com Joan

          “spark”?

          • Gary65

            Or whatever it is that JK is referring to. I don’t think it’s that farfetched to think that something might have happened if Ron hadn’t come back. That kind of misery is not mentally sustainable.

          • http://benchpressabear.tumblr.com Joan

            Not challenging your personal opinion. Only pointed out the word because as it pertains to what Jo said in the interview, I think it is stretching what she said.

          • Truth

            More like ‘Roaring Bonfire that JKR admits she ignored because of wish fulfillment’.

          • http://benchpressabear.tumblr.com Joan

            Um, yeah, no, but thanks for proving my point. ;)

  • Jane

    Love her for saying this.

  • ZofTheTwiHard

    Hmm… so I guess disappointment is not misplaced at this point, although she didn’t say anything about it yet.
    Jo… could’ve done without. Just sayin’.

  • Jane

    Love Jo for saying this!

  • Matt

    If anything, it seems to suggest to me that JK concedes there’s room for a happy future for Ron/Hermione, and that while Harry/Hermione would’ve worked, too, the canon of the book is feasible as is.

    • NightStrike91

      Something, if I remember correctly, she has said before. What a non-story it turned out to be.

      • Matilda

        Funny how that works out. As if quoting from someone who is quoting from an excerpt of an interview and using a hyperbolic, assumed article title was meant to be a quiet contemplation of what she actually meant. smh.

  • Ono

    But that is just the thing: The way Jo wrote the books, there was NEVER any suggestion that Harry and Hermione would have worked as a couple. (That was something that David Heyman and Steve Kloves and Emma Watson came up with.) For Emma to say that Harry and Hermione are true equals is pretty presumptuous. I never saw Hermione as the heroine of these books. She was the supportive sidekick, along with Ron. Harry was the hero. Period.

    • Gary65

      She means that they’re equals in terms of character, not in terms of their role in the story. Out of the trio, Ron is clearly lacking a certain degree of moral fibre that the other 2 have.

      • Dan

        Exactly.

      • Betsy

        He did, but he gains a lot of it by instantly regretting his decision to leave them, working out a way to get back to them (bringing them lots of important news of the outside world they really wouldn’t have gotten otherwise), and then saving Harry’s life. Like Jo said, Ron really needed to “act out” in that way precisely so he could work his way back. And I don’t think coming back resolved all of his self esteem issues. But it did finally give him a real foundation from which to build on, going forward.

    • Dan

      Are you sure you read the interview? Emma clearly said that she was not comfortable doing that scene because it was not in the books.

    • jkredwine

      Just because you read no overt sexual chemistry between them in the books does not mean that their characters could never have ended up together. What tells you they’re so incompatible as a couple? I see plenty of indication in the canon that, given a little spark, Harry and Hermione could have been quite happy together. I’m not a shipper or anything, but friends turn into lovers pretty frequently. And we only see these characters as teens, whose attractions rarely last a lifetime anyway.

      It’s a pretty common sentiment that Hermione saved the trio more often than either of her male companions. She may not be the protagonist of the series, or the chosen one, but by any measure of heroism Hermione has Harry matched and sometimes exceeded.

      • Guest

        Perfectly stated!

      • Ono

        @jkredwine. “It’s a pretty common sentiment that Hermione saved the trio more often than either of her male companions.” Except, of course that whole thing where Harry sacrificed his own life to save the entire wizarding world. Um . . . No. Harry is the hero of this tale. You have been too swayed by the Mary Sue depiction of Hermione in the movies.

        • jkredwine

          Please don’t presume to tell me what has informed my opinions of characters who have been in my life for 15 years.

          It’s certainly an arguable point. But characters risked, and gave, their lives in these books all the time. They’re all fighting to save the wizarding world. The key difference for me is that Harry had no real choice. With that in mind, Hermione’s consistency is on par (for me) with Harry’s grand but ultimately unavoidable gesture. I suppose we just have distinct conceptualizations of heroism.

        • Mr Norrell

          Only one person can be the Christ-like figure, just because that isn’t Hermione doesn’t mean that she’s not every bit the hero that Harry is. Harry was engineered by chance and fate to survive his ordeal with death, Hermione never was. That makes her risking her life all the more powerful.

    • Mr Norrell

      Just because the potential only appeared to Rowling in the 7th book doesn’t mean it was never there before. If there were truly never any suggestion that Harry and Hermione would have worked as a couple, then where did the Harmonians come from? They’re not like the Harry/Draco or Severitus people who have absolutely nothing but their own twisted minds to draw from. They saw the kind of friendship and support that Harry and Hermione had and said, “Yes, that’s exactly the kind of foundation that’s best suited for a relationship.”

      And Hermione is the Heroine in the story, she always has been. She’s not the one who stands toe-to-toe to Voldemort but she confronts the Death Eater’s anti-Muggleborn propaganda head on by being the brilliant witch she is.

    • guestA

      umm excuse me, Heroine ≠ protagonist. not always.

      it also means : A woman noted for courage and daring action.

      2. A woman noted for special achievement in a particular field.

      which Hermione IS.

      Hermione is definitely a heroine, just like Ginny is, and Tonks is and McGonagall is.

      but I do agree that stupid kloves took it way too far.

  • Tams

    Oh, come’n! Like Ron didn’t left his parents behind and a bucket of siblings when he went along with Harry on the hunt. Not to mention the fact that his family were under a constant danger.

    • http://www.hungertimes.com/ Fhaps

      Oh, come’n! Like he didn’t go back running to his elder brother the moment he got hungry.

      • Tams

        First, It doesn’t change the fact he left his family in order to help Harry, the decision not many would have gone through and second, he didn’t ran away cos he was just hungry. Along with all that Horcrux sh*t the situation escalated pretty quickly, Ron was the most affected by it and Harry shouting at the top of his lungs to f*ck off didn’t help the situation at all. What is the most important is that he came back and saved his sorry ass. So both Hermione and Ron were equally important for Harry to win the war.

      • Malachydove

        He’s 18 for pity’s sake. He’s a kid with demons that he’s been battling his whole life. The fact that he came back and helped Harry until the end is already admirable.

        • Guest

          Yes, Ron had many demons. Remember he splinched his fingernails too that one time.
          To roughly paraphrase Hermione, ‘that really puts the others’ suffering into perspective, doesnt it’?

          • guestA

            actually he “splinched” before, something much worse than his fingernails (remember when they escaped the ministry?) and he also died.

            also he, later, lost his brother- so his suffering is just as big as hermione’s.

            try to re-read the books once in a while as opposed to cherry- pick quotes to be a F*** hater.

          • Guest

            I was replying to the person talking about demons he’s been battling his whole life. No need to get inappropriate. It was a joke.

        • Mr Norrell

          18 isn’t a kid any more. Coming back after cowardly running away isn’t admirable, it’s the least he could do and the only time in the entire series he ever showed contrition for what he’s done.

          • Jess

            Ok I think you all need to understand that being 18 doesn’t necessarily means you have become an adult. Crap there are “adults” that don’t behave like adults at all! He is only human as we all are, he sometimes makes mistakes like we’ve all done, plus it was neither Hermione’s nor Ron’s duty to be fighting that fight but they both agreed to do it because they wanted to support his friend, they did it in a different way and perhaps Hermione was stronger by staying with Harry but that does not gives you the right to discredit Ron’s actions, after all, Ron stood by Harry since year one, he befriended him and was Harry’s right hand in everything, and YES he had his demons and he let them cloud his judgment more than once but that doesn’t makes him a coward, it makes him a human being! Characters don’t have to be perfect you know, that’s what makes them so interesting/lovable, so get a grip and be able to take both sides of the coin

          • Mr Norrell

            If he hadn’t become an “adult” by the time he turned 18, after all he’s been through, then he never will be one at all. I wonder how exactly he sees everything he’s gone through during his schooling, were they all just “adventures” to him? Did they actually mean anything besides having another story to tell? Did he take any of them seriously at all? From the looks of it, no, he didn’t take them seriously and Harry was right to call him on it before he cowardly ran away.

            And yes, it was Ron’s duty to fight that fight. It was the duty of every decent person to stand up against Voldemort. A duty most of them failed to do until their prodigal son returned, but judging from Ron, that’s just the way the ever-childish wizarding world works.

          • guest

            A lot of children think they’re grown because they’re 18 but just because 18 is the legal age to vote and buy cigarettes does not mean that someone is completely mature by this age especially someone who has barely finished school and has never been on his own before. people older than 18 can still be immature. Also, wasn’t Ron 17 at the time? He left before christmas of what was supposed to be his 7th year, so his 18th birthday would have been a few months later.

          • romionefan

            righttttt because when wizards live up to 150– 18 is totally an adult.

            also they were in a WAR- and I would like to see haters like you deal with having to abandoned you family, almost bleeding to death, being constantly persecuted and not sure where is safe- on top of being cold and hungry- better. most of use would have panicked just like Ron
            (yes, I include myself in that situation)

          • Mr Norrell

            The 150 year age for Dumbledore was an exaggeration. He was really more like 120, an age which I credit magic and their wonderful health care system with.

            And yes, they were in a war. I would have assumed that the reality of this would have been made clear to him before now. If having his own father almost die, two of his elder brothers be disfigured, and being there when one of his mentors (Moody) was killed didn’t clue him in to the reality of the situation, then what will?

            You’d like to see people like me have to deal with that situation? Well so would I, because it’s situations like that which show who we truly are. In coming back Ron showed who he’d like to be, he showed more of who he was when he left. If he ever managed to traverse the gaping chasm between the two, we’ll never know.

      • guest

        Okay, First, both Ron and Hermione had no intention of going back to his family when they left. I would suggest that Hr didnt stay just because she had more belief in the cause. Ron was a pure blood, his family was in constant danger, and he was worried (as evidenced by his radio), whereas Hermione would have been killed the second she came out of hiding. Her family was hidden and safe, she didnt even know exactly where they were. She basically had no option but to stay with Harry. So, I wouldnt compare R and Hr in this situation.

        Also, the one thing that drives me nuts about the movie, is that in the books it was Harry and Ron. With Hermione occasionally, but it was always implied that though Harry AND Ron were her best friends she had other friends, and wasnt around them all that often. Whereas in the movies it is Harry and Hermione, but Harry hangs out with Ron sometimes because they are roomies. That becomes even more apparent in the final movies till the seventh where Ron really doesnt show a relationship with either.

        Finally, (though I do have more to say on this subject) I always saw Harry and Hermione as the siblings they didnt have, especially when Ron left in 7th. I loved the scene where they were dancing, because it shows the family love and companionship they have. I just want people in modern media to be friends again without making it sexual or romantic! I loved their relationship because it wasnt romantic, and now, i feel like that is ruined for me.

        • Kiri_ki

          I totally agree with you when it comes to the family-like friendship between Harry and Hermoine but the interview didn’t ruined it fpr me. I accept the story as it’s written and do not complain about other ways it could have turned out. I mean as I first read The Philosophers Stone I wished for Hermoine and Harry to be together but about time I saw that it was more likely for her to be with Ron, because Jo wrote it like this-

          But in one point I have to disagree with you. While reading the books (and I read them more often than I want to admit) I always had the feeling that Harry felt for both Hermoine and Ron the same. They were both his best friends. I never had the impression that he treasures one of them more than the other. There were times, when Ron and Hermoine didn’t like each other but at this time he was there for both of them. I think it’s difficult to define the relationship between those three because it is really complex.

  • Jane

    I love that they both finally admit that Harry and Hermione were true equals and perfect. <3 I will *always* ship Harry/Hermione!

    • Potterhead

      That’s not exactly what she said there… shippers will look for the teeniest scrap to support their OTP (and I ship Harry/Draco, so have seen it all with fans and their canon ‘evidence’ lol).

      • Guest

        Pretty sure Jane isn’t saying that H/Hr were in love in the books. Just that they had amazing potential together. I am not a “shipper”, so I don’t like to pretend something is there when it isn’t. But H/Hr have always been so in sync, had such a deep understanding and admiration of one another, that you can see how that could translate to them romantically caring for one another if Jo had decided to go down that route.

    • Guest

      And we saw something in them that we were initially ridiculed for… but now Jo and Emma even see it! <3

  • Zeo

    I’m feeling very disillusioned when it comes to Jo right now. And that’s something I never thought I’d say. She’s undermining one of the most beautiful relationships she created in the books: Harry and Hermione’s friendship/sibling-like love for one another. It was so, so nice to see such a fierce love that was so obviously platonic.

    • CliveRogan

      I agree, it fuels the notion that men and women can’t be friends with each other without trying to sleep with each other if left in a room together. It always seemed so clear cut that they were just friends but now it feels like it was a tired love triangle after all.

    • Erika

      Yeah, I’m really disappointed in her. Her saying that she regrets something about this series that means so much to me wounds me deeply.

      • E.V. Emmons

        You shouldn’t take it so personally. I for one agree that Harry and Hermione were a better fit, I’d always thought that, even before this interview came out. Just think of what it’s like to never have your vision realized, at least what you enjoy is canon.

      • Megan

        She didn’t say she regrets Ron/Hermione, though. I’d take this conversation between Emma and Jo as just two friends discussing the books. Nothing said here shows regret towards her novels and how they ended, they only discussed things.

    • Lily B

      I don’t think that she was saying that Harry and Hermione did like each other romantically or that they ever would. Just that it could have happened. They were friends and they did love each other. Also is greatly saddens mean that you feel disillusioned with Jo. Just think of the beautiful world and story she has created. If she had wrote the book and Harry and Hermione had ended up together originally I don’t think you would love the books any less because the romance is such a minuscule part of the plot. The story is so much more than that.

      • Keto

        If the relationship started off from the very beginning like one of Ron/Hermione’s I’d definitely cheer for Harry and Hermione. If in DH something did happen between them, that’s what would have be out of the blue and very out of character, as Harry is very loyal friend to Ron and we’re already aware of Hermione’s deep romantic attraction to Ron. That would be a betrayal I think. I don’t mind this post contemplations of what would have been tho.

        • Mr Norrell

          What is with people thinking that if two people aren’t pulling their hair out that they don’t have what it takes to be a couple? Not every good couple starts out by fighting each other all the time and most of the people who do don’t make good couples.

          • Kate

            I don’t know why you took my words that way, I just said that in the series there was nowhere implied that Harry was nursing some romantic feelings towards Hermione, unlike hints of Ron/Hermione throughout the whole series. I mean the books are from Harry’s perspective after all and we would have known without any reasoning.

          • Mr Norrell

            I took it that way because you championed the idea that if H/Hr had been fighting incessantly like she had been with Ron that you would’ve rooted for them to be together.

          • Kate

            No, absolutely not. I mean the same starting point when these character show some romantic feelings. We have loads of hints of Ron/Hermione from the very beginning and Harry is pretty much into Cho a bit later. Say if I read Harry’s thoughts about Hermione that would have led me to conclude he had a thing for her and it started to show around 5-th book at least, I’d be fine with it.

          • Mr Norrell

            Ah, if Harry had shown some attraction to her from the beginning (something you attribute to R/Hr), not if they had had a combative relationship (something that’s definitely R/Hr) from the beginning, then you’d be all for it. Gotcha.

          • Kate

            Right! The way the books are written it would be very unrealistic to me for Harry to suddenly go like “crap, Ginny was a mistake I shouldn’t be wasting the potential of me and Hermione ending up married”. Harry I know wouldn’t do that to his best friend, as he’s pretty aware of Ron’s feelings towards Hermione. Oh, and btw cool nickname, I hope one day WB will adapt Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell, my absolute favourite fantasy book.

          • K

            I don’t know I don’t think it’s unrealistic. The problem is that it’s all hypothetical, and personally I always felt like something was bubbling beneath the surface with Hermione and Harry. I genuinely thought Hermione was just annoyed at Ron all the time and the Yule Ball thing blindsided me. I guess it’s just depends on the reader

    • amyk_712

      I agree that their relationship was one of the most (in my estimation THE most) beautiful relationships in the series, but I don’t think it undermines the relationship to say it could have turned romantic. It would have simply morphed from a fiercely beautiful friendship to a romantic relationship that could have been just as beautiful. My opinion, at least.

  • Zeo

    I’ll be sticking to what’s actually in the books, thank you.

    • Guest

      That’s good…because J.K Rowling has not told us to do otherwise! Ron/Hermione IS endgame but this interview gives confirmation to Harry/Hermione supporters who saw their potential ALL ALONG :))

      • Julie Grizzlethwart

        I don’t particularly disagree with this but if I did would my comment stay in place or be removed?

  • Nina

    Strange , I always thought Ron’s insecurities were resolved when he came back,notwithstanding his fears. I pretty much remember Jo saying that his departure was a chance for Ron to find his own standings. I’m still convinced the films made some sort of influence on Jo, regardless how she claimed that it wasn’t an issue.

    • Ono

      I think that you are right about that. Remember: there was a time when she said that Harry/Hermione shippers were “delusional.” And again, there is NOTHING in the books that even slightly supports the ship. Something changed.

      • Potterhead

        JKR never uttered the word delusional, the interviewer did. In fact, she corrected him. Carry on.

      • Guest

        She’s talking about their POTENTIAL. Which, if I am interpreting correctly, she realized around the time of DH when H/Hr had been ditched by Ron.
        On a personal note, I remember reading DH and finding it weird that H/Hr barely talked when Ron left. It’s almost like, while she was writing, she was afraid of their potential together. And so she tried to distance them, which was very uncharacteristic.

        • DarkSkywalker

          Oh the potential…

          To me that was the most difficult thing to get over…

          The wasted potential.

        • Mr Norrell

          It’s not uncharacteristic at all. She had Hermione disappear for almost a month in the lead up to the Yule Ball and only reappear again once Harry was focused on asking Cho and Hermione was going with Krum. She also said before that she felt that Harry and Hermione had grown “too close” by the end of OotP, which is why Hermione acted so crazy and distanced herself in HBP. That speaks to her actively working to separate these two characters that she now says could’ve worked very well together.

          • Guest

            I agree, but I meant uncharacteristic of Harry and Hermione, not JKR. They were usually there for each other in times of need. And when they weren’t… I feel it had to do with Jo trying to keep ‘em apart. JMO :)

          • Julie Grizzlethwart

            I disagree

        • Julie Grizzlethwart

          I don’t agree

        • Nino

          I think in DH it was already too late to change their relationship. Jo did right to stick to her initial plan, cos if something happened between the two that would have totally ruined Harry’s and Hermione’s characters for me. The pair had potential, Jo built a massive world where not just romantic relationships,but uncountable other things had it as well. After Half Blood Prince Jo had already an established dynamic between the three and if anything the sudden change of this dynamic would have been far more unrealistic than Ron/Hermione ending up together. I’m talking based on what we have in print. I’m not a shipper, it’s quite simple for me, as I always follow canon and If Jo had started to initiate something remotely romantic between Harry and Hermione at least from book 4,I’d be ok with this pairing as well, cos it wouldn’t be just a change of heart right at the end, rather a hook up that had background in previous books.

          • Guest

            I disagree. It’s pretty ridiculous to suggest that not only one but TWO childhood relationships last into adulthood to begin with, as life is so messy that it makes it really unlikely that not only Ginny and Harry would be married but Ron and Hermione as well? Apart from that I could totally see a complete couple switch emerge, and even if it had been spontaneous I think there’s sufficient evidence in the earlier books for it. Remember friends fall for the same person all the time and teenage partners get passed around like a bowl of popcorn. It would not have been neat and tidy because of resulting Ron’s anger and hurt, but life ISN’T neat and tidy, it’s not the reality of it that’s the problem.
            At the same time I think the point JKR was making was that she forced the R/Hr a little, because she doesn’t think it would necessarily have lasted or been the best for them.

            Idk I’m biased because I always loved the quiet, persevering relationship between Harry and Hermione and I thought the combative fire between Ron and Hermione was silly and both parties were unhappy more than happy with each other

      • Lindsey

        It was Emerson Spartz who said the Hermione/Harry shippers were delusional. Don’t put words in her mouth.

      • Truth

        Way to be wrong and spout the same incorrect crap that most R/Hr fans do when talking about H/Hr.

      • Michael

        JK did seem to regret the “delusional” comment very quickly, a joke with an interviewer that she realised would upset a large amount of readers. She made it clear soon afterwards that she didn’t think people were delusional for liking the idea of Harry and Hermione together, she thought they were delusional if she thought that was what was actually going to happen in the last book.

  • http://blackrapture.tumblr.com/ thegoodshipdestiel

    Hated that scene in Deathly Hallows and I hate this entire thing. Harry Potter has never been about the ships for me, but this has really cheapened one of the most significant romantic relationships in the series. Would love for JK to keep her mouth shut from now on unless it’s just extra information – no more second guessing the canon.

    • Talie Delemere

      Bit rude for her to “shut her mouth” it’s her books and her world, as a reader we’re entilted to take that world and form opinions on how we want things to be, but to tell the author of it to shut her mouth….without her they’d be no Harry Potter

      • http://blackrapture.tumblr.com/ thegoodshipdestiel

        I don’t know many bigger Harry Potter fans than myself, so trust me when I say that I appreciate that JK has given an amazing gift to all of us with her books. However, she is saying things that affect how people perceive one of the most important aspects of the story (Ron, Hermione, and Harry’s friendship). And regardless of how we are all saying that it doesn’t matter because the books are written and canon is already canon despite this interview, it does matter. Obviously she can’t change what she’s written, but when the author says she regrets making something a certain way, it is important and it does change how we see the dynamic between the three main characters. It makes me afraid that in the future she is going to reveal more and more things that she wishes she’d written different and diminish the further significance of something that has been a huge part of my life. I may have worded it harshly, but it is how I feel and I don’t regret feeling it.

        • Kate

          But she doesn’t regret tho, she just contemplates on the subject. Ron apparently is Hermione’s weakness, look at it that way :)

        • Talie Delemere

          People’s perceptions derive from themselves though, people don’t have to perceive it this way because it COULD have happened, Harry COULD have killed Voldemort with avada rather than expelliarmus and then he would’ve been a murderer, but he didn’t. She isn’t changing canon, she is criticizing and evaluating her art from a standing point, something a good writer should be able to do.

        • Mr Norrell

          Just because you read the story doesn’t mean it belongs to you. If anything it belongs to the culture and no one person can speak for that, not even the author.

          What she’s doing is called Literary Criticism. It’s where you pull apart various aspects of the written work and analyze them. You might want to look it up.

          • http://blackrapture.tumblr.com/ thegoodshipdestiel

            I have a degree in English Literature, so there’s no need to be a condescending dick. Pretty sure I’ve analyzed more literature than most people.

          • Mr Norrell

            Obviously there is, otherwise how would you know that you’re completely lacking perspective on this? I wonder, if the series had been written 100 years ago would you have had such a visceral reaction to these revelations? Odds are that you wouldn’t. You could have spent 10 years analyzing these texts before stumbling upon the same sort of revelations and they may have breathed new life into the subject for you, but instead “It makes me afraid.”

            You don’t see these books as Literature. You see them as you, and that makes you biased. It makes me wonder if you’ve ever analyzed yourself.

    • potterhead

      So she’s not allowed to have an opinion and voice it about the story SHE wrote then? What a moronic comment!

      • http://blackrapture.tumblr.com/ thegoodshipdestiel

        Did you even read what you just said? Of course she’s allowed to have an opinion and voice it – but you think I’m a moron for not liking it? I’m allowed to not like it as much as she has a right to say it. These books have been a huge part of my life for over a decade and my opinion is valid.

        • Joanne

          As a huge fan of the series you should not be so upset about a romantic storyline, because you would know better than other non-fans that Harry Potter is NOT a love story!! Its so much more than that. So it’s kind of strange that you want the author to shut her mouth when SHE wrote books, knows the characters and therefore whatever she says is not random. She explained her reasoning and I don’t see any reason for you to be upset.

          • http://blackrapture.tumblr.com/ thegoodshipdestiel

            As I said in my initial comment, Harry Potter is not about the ships (for me, anyway) and never has been. It is perfetly okay that you aren’t upset and don’t see any reason to be, but you can’t deny other people the right to feel differently. Wondering if anyone would have objected to comment if I hadn’t used the exact phrase “shut her mouth,” as that seems to be everyone’s actual complaint about what I initially said.

          • Darcy

            I think you got that exactly right, I wouldn’t have minded what you said if you weren’t so rude to the person who created this series that you apparently are a high fan of. You’re allowed to have your opinions and Jo is allowed to have hers.

          • http://blackrapture.tumblr.com/ thegoodshipdestiel

            Well I wish people could have looked past a catty phrase I wrote at 6 AM directly after reading this article and not gotten so offended haha. Obviously I agree that JK, myself, and everyone else who has commented are welcome to think/say whatever they like. That’s what Hypable is for.

        • Mr Norrell

          A mistake people make is in thinking that every opinion is just as valid and should be given as much weight as every other. Just because you’ve liked something for over a decade doesn’t mean that your opinion is anywhere near as valid as the author’s.

          • http://blackrapture.tumblr.com/ thegoodshipdestiel

            I didn’t say it was as valid – all I said was that I’m allowed to have it. You are trying to sound intelligent but it’s not exactly working.

          • Mr Norrell

            thegoodshipdestiel: “I’m allowed to not like it as much as she has a right to say it. These books have been a huge part of my life for over a decade and my opinion is valid.”

            You implied that your opinion and right to speak outweighed Rowling’s opinion and right to speak about her own work because you “would love for JK to keep her mouth shut from now on.” If “Harry Potter has never been about the ships for (you)” then why did you post at all?

            Judging from your handle I’d say that shipping actually IS a big part of the story for you and will become hostile whenever your perfect little world is threatened. Even if it’s by the author. Especially when it’s by the author.

  • Samantha

    So much of this conversation fits right in with what I’ve believed for years. I love this.

  • RamblingBabbles

    Finally! The entire interview! And I can’t read it right now because of work!

  • Ultron

    You know, I still don’t get why people are genuinely mad about this? Harry Potter is my favorite series in the entire world, don’t get me wrong but I mean, who cares? Until something is written, ron and hermione are still together. This doesn’t change the characters in the book at all. I mean maybe I’m a little disappointed? Or maybe I just need to read the book again and then it’ll hit me or something. But until that point I think it’s foolish of people to be mad at Rowling. She knows these characters better than you think you do. She knows what would’ve made hermione happy in the end and she’s just saying that.

    • Nino

      Besides, what I get from this interview is that she actually preferred Ron/Hermione, call it wish fulfillment or whatever you like. She just questions real possibilities of such a relationship. Sure, one could thing Hermione and Harry fit better, but in real nothing is for sure, that might just don’t work in the long run either, compatible or not. So I find these arguments a bit silly.

      • Charlie

        Yeah, her ‘wish fulfillment’ comment sounds more like Ron/Hermione is the relationship she likes- she just wonders whether it worked as a creative decision. In this respect I feel kind of bad for J.K. Rowling- she can’t talk about her work without people taking the comments personally.

      • Ultron

        Yeah and it seems to me she put Hermione and Ron together because she wanted them to be together even if Hermione would’ve been happier with Harry. Everyone is twisting it to say she doesn’t want Ron and Hermione to be together but it’s really the exact opposite

    • Kadma Sixx

      Ultron, you and I really need to be friends. Really.

      • Ultron

        Okay :3

  • Winkyxx

    Ill say this, I will always ship Ron and Hermione forever.

  • http://daydreamsandwhispers.tumblr.com/ Hermione Granger

    Oh…okay, now that I’ve read the whole interview, I feel a lot better about the whole thing. It was really just two people having a conversation, not Jo making some big proclamation. Ultimately she did think Ron and Hermione were suited for each other – maybe not the “perfect match” idea we all carry around in our heads, but I think we love them all the better for it. They’ll fight, someone’ll spend nights on the couch, they probably would need counseling – but does any of that devalue their relationship? NO! If anything, it makes it more admirable that they don’t necessarily have it easy but will continue to work at it.

    I think when they said Harry and Hermione are “better suited” or “equals” – what they meant actually was that in a lot of ways they were really very alike. Harry was actually quite effortlessly brilliant, even though he hated actual academia. They were both leaders and both extremely stubborn. It was a constant struggle of Harry saying he thought he had worked out something that seemed crazy, Hermione telling him he was wrong and then Ron stepping in to be the level-headed voice. The irony with relationships like Harry/Hermione is that you think they SHOULD work well together, and they do – as friends – but you cannot grow and fall in love with someone who you are that similar with. I don’t think Jo and Emma were implying that they fell in love, or even could have – in fact the dance scene tells it all. If something more were blooming between them, this would have revealed it, and for a moment you wonder – but then you realize that it’s Ron Hermione’s still pining for, and it’s Ginny’s name Harry’s staring at each night before he sleeps…

    Also – does anyone know what Jo said about the Fantastic Beasts movie in this interview?

    • NightStrike91

      You can read the full interview over at Mugglenet. But there was no new information about it, she basically just repeated what she has already said.

      • http://daydreamsandwhispers.tumblr.com/ Hermione Granger

        Thanks! It was cool to hear the story behind it :) It was funny cause when Emma asked if Hermione would be in it, I think she meant the play (with Harry pre-Hogwarts), not Fantastic Beasts like Jo took it! Obviously the trio wouldn’t be in FB, though I wouldn’t mind the dressing-in-drag extra thing! :P Still crossing my fingers for Evanna in that though :)

  • Allison

    Wow, Sunday Times really cherry picked some quotes there. As a whole, the article is pretty mild.

  • Heather

    As much as I love Hermione, I feel like this interview painted her as a perfect character, which she wasn’t, by a long shot. And it made it sound like Ron was never resolved. Hermione is critical, a bit close-minded, and stubborn. Yes, she made great sacrifices, but she was constantly trying to dissaude Harry about the Hallows being real, and just being very know-it-all in the other books. Ron, however, was definitely resolved in DH. Yes, he left, and that spoke a lot about Ron, but it spoke about him even more that he came back. By coming back, Ron took a stand, conquered his fears, and stepped up once he killed the Horcrux. The Horcux displayed all his true fears and he defeated those. From that point on, Ron is different. And I’d say a lot of his issues were resolved then. I feel it’s a bit unfair that Hermione gets painted so perfectly, and Ron got’s painted as unresolved. It’s a bit in the middle, and I’m more disappointed in these views rather than the shipping views.

    • Trish

      absolutely spot on! At this point Hermione feels like a JKR self insert and beyond reproach.

    • Vanessa

      What are talking about? Of course they know Hermione is flawed! Joe even states she needs to be less critical, which goes with the points you were bringing up. Nowhere in the article does it state Hermione being perfect. They explain in the beginning that there is a lot more to her than what other thought about her, which reflects reality in people. That people should embrace their inner Hermione if they exhibit traits like her, but doesn’t mean you should strive to embrace Luna’s qualities or Ginny’s qualities and so forth.

      And no, Ron wasn’t “definitely resolved” in DH. The lack of self-esteem doesn’t suddenly appear and his insecurities are forever gone. That’s not how it works in the real world. It’s a gradual process. But did Ron believe in himself after he had to take his own self-actualizing journey? Yes. He felt more confident in himself, prompting him to come back. No person is “completely resolved”, it’s foolish to think so. We as humans are constantly working through our flaws. But that experience did help Ron to have more faith in himself and in his purpose. Ron’s main issue, I believe, is that he was never the best, and he thought he needed to be. But in fact, he learned he needed to find joy and fulfillment wherever he was, despite being #1 or not. Think about it, Hermione climbs her way to the top in Ministry rankings, while Ron helps George in his shop. I’m sure at times he felt a little insecure about Hermione’s acheivements, but he had to reassure himself that it doesn’t matter; as long as Hermione supports him and still loves him and Ron still supports her and loves her. That’s a relationship. There’s actually a web series (Harry Potter and the Ten Years Later) that illustrates this compatibility quite well. Though it is overexagerrated for plot and comedic purposes, the show focuses on the struggle between the couple. Ultimately, it reconciles with “yes we both have our differences and our flaws, but I love you and we’re going to work through it every step of the way”. That’s a relationship, that’s how it works.

      Since the journalists started twisting Joe’s words and putting “regret” or “should have”, readers have this perceived notion that she indeed does, however she never explicitly (nor implicitly for that matter) states it so. She’s giving herself an outside perspective, if you will, about the reality of the dynamic between the relationships. She’s giving readers a look at how the process works, and how many routes she could of took. As a writer, your original concept of a story/idea is different from the finalized product. She never made a proclamation as the headlines proclaimed it to be, she’s having an earnest conversation with Emma, who Joe has known since she was 11!

      If anything, blame the journalists who blew it put of proportion to make headlines and publicity.

      • Heather

        Okay, maybe saying Ron was definitely resolved was too strong, but I do feel he made a huge step in that way by coming back. Of course he’ll still be a bit insecure for sure, but he conquered a lot and did indeed change.

        And I do realize Jo mentioned Hermione needs to be less critical (which I was glad she said because it’s true). Hermione is definitely an amazing character and I love her to bits, but just reading it over felt a lot like all they did was talk about how amazing Hermione is and how Ron still needs to figure out his life. Haha idk, it just came off that way to me.

        Jo has always said Hermione is a version of herself and I remember her saying she was glad David Heyman said his favourite character was Hermione, and groaned, thinking that he was going to pick Ron like everyone else before he answered. Hermione always seems to be a bit on a pedestal, which I think the films are to blame for. Hermione is amazing because of how stubborn and irritating and clever and brave she is. I love her because of her flaws, but it felt like only Ron’s were talked about as opposed to Hermione’s or even Harry’s.

    • Ono

      @Heather. I totally agree with you. I felt like in the final movies there was a conscious effort to morph Hermione from the imperfect character who we all loved from the books into a Mary Sue action hero. (Just one example: In the books, it was Harry’s idea when they were trapped in Gringots to jump on the dragon, and Harry lead the way in doing so. In the movie, it was I-don’t-like-to-fly Hermione who came up with the idea and lead the way.) I always just attributed that to the writer and director not really understanding the character, AND to them wanting to emphasize Emma as much as possible. To see Jo seeming to agree with this approach is really disappointing. She really should have left well enough alone.

      • Charlie

        If I remember correctly, the screenwriter admitted Hermione is his favourite character.

    • Alea Kimeona

      Thank You, I highly agree with you.

  • TheFirst

    And again people made this out to be bigger than it actually was. She never says she ‘regrets’ Hermoine/Ron and while Hermione/Harry could’ve worked too, she doesn’t want to change it :)

  • ano

    I had a Feeling JK Rowling won’t say Harry/Hermione should have married or that she regrets Ron/Hermione. She just said where Harry/Hermione fits better in a Movie and in the End she says Ron/Hermione will be just fine, so she believes in them. It seems Sunday Times made a Wordplay.

  • IngloriousJaen

    I have had some time to think and I think I have finally come to acceptance stage of this new “revelation.” Now I just can’t wait for the great new angsty fanfictions that will come out of this. Ron/Hermione fanfiction always lacked good angst.

  • Samantha

    I think she actually explained this beautifully through the tent scene; I am so glad to have that part of the interview for context. What everyone forgets is how young the characters are. Yes sometimes people fall in love in high school and stay that way forever. But a lot of times people fall in love in high school, and then grow apart. And a lot of times, even in the most platonic of relationships, there is that moment where both sides consider the “what if.” I think the tent scene was one of the most realistic in the movies.

    • Alea Kimeona

      I agree, I had “what if’s” moments with friends before but never acted on them it was just a thought.

  • http://www.twitter.com/KrysDanielle Kris Bennett

    To everybody that’s been riding JK Rowling’s ass all week for what she said, I hope they read this interview. This interview carefully explains why she put Ron and Hermione together in the end, even though her and Harry were moire capable of being together, she put her together with Ron. Now, I would have the tent scene to realize how a Harry/Hermione relationship would play out

  • Sage

    I’m just crying. I just love Hermione so much. This article actually helped me understand Ron just a little bit better.

  • Zack

    As others have said, Jo knows her own characters better than you think you do. Back off.

    • Sam

      ^THIS

    • Julie Grizzlethwart

      Jo can’t change the books once they are in print. She made the decisions she made and unless she writes new stuff, her retrospective indecision is meaningless and irrelevant, or as relevant as we want to make it, like fan fiction. Jo also can’t dictate or mediate how readers experience and interpret her books. They aren’t hers anymore. She let them go when they were published. They are everyone’s now. I like and admire Jo very much and don’t think she is trying to dictate or mess with anyone’s head, just musing about things she created and how she might consider doing things differently now or how she sees things or understands things differently now. Doesn’t matter. That ship has sailed. I think it is others who view her as a perfect god-like oracle whose every word must be accepted and worshipped. She wouldn’t want that. She’s just a human. A very talented one who’ s created wonderful things but still a flawed human who can be inconsistent or inaccurate or contradictory. It’s OK. The words in our books aren’t morphing as we speak or as she speaks. It’s your Harry Potter, all of you. You stick to your own interpretation and the books as they are, unless you want otherwise. The chances are we as readers will see and feel and think different things every time we read them anyway because we all change and grow and get different perspectives. My opinion is that Harry and Hermione were platonic, like the brother and sister that neither of them ever had and that was an important part of the story and that Ron did resolve many of his demons, again a very important part of the story. I suppose its plausible that there may have been an unspoken frisson of what might have been when they were stuck together without Ron in the tent feeling miserable and scared, but I don’t think so really. The whole point was that they were like brother and sister. Brother and sister don’t suddenly start fancying each other. It’s OK though. Jo can think differently and so can others. I have my own relationship with the books and that world. When Jo writes new stuff, I will accept it completely, but chit chat after the fact doesn’t count. I’m sure she would be fine with this. :D If not tough!!!

  • Ciminder87

    Honestly I think this adds a point of realism to the relationships among the three. I can speak from experience in saying that although men and women can be friends without sexual tension, it’s unrealistic at that age that the thought never crossed their minds.

    No it wasn’t written into the books and the plot certainly made it clear that the direction was going toward Ron/Hermione, but personally it never seemed believable that Harry and Hermione never had one thought about whether they would be a good match.

    Many people, teenagers and adults alike, analyze their friendships this way, wondering if something more than friendship is logical. The three of them are so close and have shared so much (especially since Harry and Hermione had those additional months of shared hardship together) it would be difficult NOT to wonder if that automatically lends itself to a certain amount of compatibility. I don’t think this takes away from the integrity of the Ron/Hermione relationship at all–it simply adds a new element, and if you really think about it, isn’t all that surprising.

    • Joanne

      Agreed. Jo could have EASILY taken it in the other direction (that is Harry/Hermione), especially when Ron left in Deathly Hallows. She kind of made them not speak to one another because otherwise the sparks would be kind of unavoidable!

  • Elena

    Just remember that these are Jo’s books and characters. She can say whatever she wants about them. As much as you think you know the characters, she created them and will always know them better than you. It’s not your place to say “could’ve done without, Jo” or reprimand her for making a statement about HER characters. What she felt when she wrote the books is her business. And if she felt a spark between Harry and Hermione in the tent scenes, who cares if you didn’t? Afterall, without her, you wouldn’t have your precious ships. So cut her some slack. She’s aloud to feel regrets about what she wrote.

    You guys need to also understand that rarely in real life to total polar opposites stay in a healthy relationship for their entire lives. Yes, this is fiction. But if you think about it realistically, Ron and Hermione would’ve definitely needed intense counseling. They bickered so much during the series, who’s to say they wouldn’t in marriage? I always saw Ron and Hermione as dating and then eventually breaking up and marrying other people. Disagree with me all you want. I just never understood why Jo had them marry in the end. But then again, it’s her books and her characters. And she knows them better than I do. So who am I to question her?

    • Violaa

      LOVE THIS!

    • RickJM

      Its been a while but if I’m rembering correctly, in HBP after Ron drank the poison and they sort of acknowledge they’re feelings, wasn’t there arguing toned down? I mean, they still ‘bickered’ but all couples do.

  • upper_westsider

    This was a great conversation between two really bright and interesting people. LOVED IT.

  • Trish

    Look as far as i’m concerned there’s no reason Ron/Herms won’t work straight outta the gate. They remind me of Arthur/Molly and that worked out pretty damn well thank you very much. They might need to communicate more, but that hardly means counseling. And even if they get counseling it’s not a big deal. But the insinuation that it’ll be mostly because of Ron’s supposed shortcomings that they need counseling is annoying. Like Hermione’s perfect? Psh.
    Also as many have said, the locket horcrux scene resolved Ron’s self esteem issues, especially as pertaining to Harry/Hermione. And Harry’s admission they were purely platonic also put the nail in that coffin.
    I will admit the movies did Ron/Hermione some disservice at times. The kiss at the end didn’t make much sense to me, and the books’ kiss was way preferable. Alas the lack of S.P.E.W.

  • Cast Bender Podcast

    She wrote the books, she can really do whatever she wants. We all have in our own minds what we wanted to see and what we didn’t want to see. Jo has given us this series, that is enough for me. It is normal to second guess things, she wrote the books she ultimately knows the characters better than anyone else. She never rewrote the thing so you can continue on championing the relationship, I don’t think Jo even cares. Everyone is acting like spoiled brats, it is honestly disheartening to see.

  • alaskay

    I see you want to start talking about couseling for people in Harry Potter..

  • aly2016

    So she doesn’t “regret” it… Just another example of tabloids blowing things way out of proportion just for page views

  • Garrett Pletcher

    I just don’t see Harry and Hermione working out in the long run. They are both leaders in their own way, and strong willed. Even though Hermione is more studious than Harry, they’re cut from the same cloth I believe. Meanwhile, I always thought Hermione and Ron were a great couple because they were polar opposites and evened each other out. And the parallels between Ron’s parents and Hermione/Ron were always evident to me and their relationship worked just fine.

    • Guest

      I don’t think that it’s necessary that there be a leader and a follower in a relationship for it to be considered “healthy” or “successful”. Plus, the whole “opposites attract” thing is largely a myth. And even still: attraction is one thing, getting a relationship to work in the long run is another thing entirely.

      • Julie Grizzlethwart

        …and is it acceptable for anyone to disagree with you or are you simply compelled to impose your views on others?

  • GreenTea

    LOL What a b*tch, doing this just for the attention

    • IsaacOwens

      “Watson: I thought we should discuss Hermione… I’m sure
      you’ve heard this a million times but now that you have written the
      books, do you have a new perspective on how you relate to Hermione and
      the relationship you have with her or had with her?” The interviewer asked her to be interviewed, then started it.

    • Cassandra

      Your comment, GreenTea, sums you up perfectly. Leave JKR alone!

    • Eyre

      You seem to be quite eager for attention, yourself. Coming to a post about Harry Potter to call the author a derogatory name.

  • WhatTheGrace

    I’m actually starting to get tired and annoyed with all of this.

    They should have just waited and released this from the get-go. Everything’s so blown out of proportion and i quite frankly don’t want to hear or read anything more about this. It’s interesting but the media have really run this story dry.

  • Erika

    Wow, it’s so interesting how JKR completely doesn’t get her own character. Sure, Ron felt overshadowed and outshined by Harry. Yeah, they had a few fights over the years because of it. But, every time, Ron came BACK. In Goblet of Fire, he came back. In Deathly Hallows, when coming back was the least safe, least dignified, least desirable option, he did it anyway. The person Harry would have missed most was Ron. Harry thinks to himself several times that he loves Hermione (ahem, “like a sister”!!!!), but she just isn’t the same to him as Ron. The only reason Harry and Hermione have to lean on each other emotionally so much in DH is that Ron isn’t there. He’s the glue of the group, the heart, the humor. Each of them is so essential, and it really angers me that JKR is short-changing Ron. You started writing Ron/Hermione as wish fulfillment? That’s an interesting and completely inconsequential tidbit that doesn’t change a single thing. Whether she likes it or not, these characters aren’t hers anymore. And she should probably refrain from acting like her her opinions matter at all from now on.

    • Vanessa

      Wow! That is the most illogical and unfounded “opinion”(because you’re stating this as fact) I have read in this comment section. Okay, so if you wrote a story and publish it, it’s no longer yours? You have absolutely NO SAY WHATSOEVER in your OWN story because now it belongs to people who don’t know it better than you do?

      Whether you like it or not, this is JOE’S WORLD. This is HER story. She has the final say, not you nor anybody else. If you don’t like it, then tough. You may not like the Fred died, but it happened. You can’t change someone’s work and world because it doesn’t accommodate to your own. Unbelievable, I can’t fathom such a ignorant and arrogant statement that was. You need to rethink your place as a fan.

      • Julie Grizzlethwart

        How would you feel if Jo said Fred shouldn’t have died then, that she’d made a mistake, that no one should have died, that Snape should have been Harry’s father, that muggles shouldn’t have been allowed into Hogwarts, that there never should have been a triwizard cup, that Voldermort should never have existed in the story, that Harry’s parents should never have died, that Hermione should have been a boy, that the Ministry of Magic had been a silly idea, that dobby should have been a fairy? The person you are replying to is saying she is sticking to, or wants to stick to, what is written including things she doesn’t like, like deaths, because that is what is in the book. Because she does respect JK’s position she is finding it hard to discount new comments from the author that seem to fly in the face of some central and cherished tenets of the story. Incidentally I don’t think Jo is saying it should have been different or expecting us to look to her to tell us what to make of the books. No it isn’t her world. It’s yours and mine and hers and everybody’s because she chose to share it. Certain things about it have been decided and set because she wrote them down and published them and we will also make of it all what we will. A book is not a prescription. It is an interactive experience.

        • Guest

          Actually, most of the changes you proposed to make your point would have changed the entire course of the story. R/H vs H/Hr is NOT the main point of Harry Potter. Apples and oranges, my friend.
          Even still, Jo has every right to say anything she wants with the series. Heck, she can take the books and rewrite them all if she so chooses. She didn’t GIVE you Harry Potter. She chose to SHARE the books with the world. And thank goodness she did.

          • Julie Grizzlethwart

            You cannot dictate what is and isn’t significant in the books any more than Jo can I’m afraid, my friend. The meaning and significant parts of the books are in the eyes of the beholder, so to you the relationship wasn’t that important, to others it might be more important / significant / central to the story. Absolutely Jo has the right to say what she likes about the series. The rest of us can also say and think anything we want about the series. I did not say she GAVE me or anyone the book. Read again. I said: ‘I don’t think Jo is saying it should have been different or expecting us to look to her to tell us what to make of the books. No it isn’t her world. It’s yours and mine and hers and everybody’s because she chose to SHARE it.’ You agree with me then yes? The books are out there whatever else happens or is written. Jo could not as you suggest ‘take the books and rewrite them’ (and of course nobody is suggesting she would want to). She could write new ones which we would all gladly lap up but she could not ‘take’ the existing ones. The genie cannot be put back in the lamp. Regarding the supremacy of your interpretation of Jo’s word on things or indeed your own, I think that you are making the mistake of confusing literature with religion. Jo is not and is not trying to be a religious guru.

          • Guest

            1) The main characters’ love lives were a minuscule portion of the books. Surely you cannot debate that. On the other hand, “Snape being Harry’s father” (as you suggested) would mean drastic changes-> Snape is Harry’s dad, is killed with Lily, there is no one to be the double agent needed to aid Harry/Dumbledore in destroying Voldemort (plus many other drastic changes). However, if Ron doesn’t end up with Hermione … not much changes. To the overall story, that is. If people really wanna latch onto the “who is this character’s gf?” question, I’d suggest fanfic. Or better still, another series centered around romantic lives of the main characters.
            2) “Sharing” is not the same as “giving”. That’s what I was trying to point out. You say Jo’s shared the books with us, but does that take away her right to an opinion/regret about them? No. So yes I agree that it is not only her world, she shared them with us. BUT, that doesn’t change the fact that the books are hers to change if she wants.
            3) I’d like to see you stop her from re-releasing the books with alterations in them, if she chose to. Any publishing company would publish her books, and EVERYONE would read them.
            4) LOL. Religion? Where’d you get that from? I just think we should respect an individual’s rights to their intellectual property.

          • Julie Grizzlethwart

            I think you have missed all my points but I think I understand where you are coming from now having seen some of your other posts. You would rather the story had gone another way and you’re happy at the suggestion that it could have. It doesn’t bother me that you feel that way. It is a free country. You just don’t have to put down or try to silence people who don’t see things your way. I am not, as you seem to now be suggesting above, suggesting any plot shifts, stopping Jo writing anything or denying her having any opinions (or you for that matter). I am just trying to remind you that we all have freedom of thought and interpretation and right to comment and have opinions, as you seem to be behaving as if we don’t.

          • Guest

            OK, I have no idea what’s going on in this post anymore. Haha another guest posted, accusations are being flung around, and I’m confused. To be clear, I am NOT a member of the Hypable staff, so I cannot delete your comments.
            Now then, this will be my last post in THIS thread, because there are clearly some misunderstandings going on. I only replied to you in the first place to defend J.K Rowling. Now you say you didn’t mean that, so I don’t have much to say. Oh and being an authority on myself, I can say that I actually DO NOT regard the romance to be of much importance in HP. I don’t know what “campaigning” you’re referring to either. I
            never said to rewrite the books. I just Jo could if she wants to. Maybe re-read my posts? Anyway, this is getting exhausting. I was only trying to trying to have a discussion. If I’d known you’d start accusing me of weird things, I’d never have replied to you. Have a good day.

          • Julie Grizzlethwart

            Maybe just be polite next time, that’ll probably do it, whatever your opinion. Don’t be rude, mean or disrespectful, that’s all.

          • Julie Grizzlethwart

            You cannot dictate what is and isn’t significant in the books any more than Jo can I’m afraid, my friend.

            The meaning and significant parts of the books are in the eyes of the beholder, so to you the relationship wasn’t that important, to others it might be more important / significant / central to the story. Absolutely Jo has the right to say what she likes about the series. The rest of us can also say and think anything we want about the series. I did not say she GAVE me or anyone the book. Read again. I said: ‘I don’t think Jo is saying it should have been different or expecting us to look to her to tell us what to make of the books. No it isn’t her world. It’s yours and mine and hers and everybody’s because she chose to SHARE it.’ You agree with me then yes?

            The books are out there whatever else happens or is written. Jo could not as you suggest ‘take the books and rewrite them’ (and of course nobody is suggesting she would want to). She could write new ones which we would all gladly lap up but she could not ‘take’ the existing ones. The genie cannot be put back in the lamp. Regarding the supremacy of your interpretation of Jo’s word on things or indeed your own, I think that you are making the mistake of confusing literature with religion. Jo is not and is not trying to be a religious guru.

          • Julie Grizzlethwart

            You cannot dictate what is and isn’t significant in the books any more than Jo can I’m afraid, my friend.

            The meaning and significant parts of the books are in the eyes of the beholder, so to you the relationship wasn’t that important, to others it might be more important / significant / central to the story. Absolutely Jo has the right to say what she likes about the series. The rest of us can also say and think anything we want about the series. I did not say she GAVE me or anyone the book. Read again. I said: ‘I don’t think Jo is saying it should have been different or expecting us to look to her to tell us what to make of the books. No it isn’t her world. It’s yours and mine and hers and everybody’s because she chose to SHARE it.’ You agree with me then yes?

            The books are out there whatever else happens or is written. Jo could not as you suggest ‘take the books and rewrite them’ (and of course nobody is suggesting she would want to). She could write new ones which we would all gladly lap up but she could not ‘take’ the existing ones. The genie cannot be put back in the lamp. Regarding the supremacy you claim of your interpretation of Jo’s word on things or indeed your own word on things, I think that you are making the mistake of confusing literature with religion. Jo is not and is not trying to be a religious guru and does not require preachers to spread the word.

          • Julie Grizzlethwart

            You cannot dictate what is and isn’t significant in the books any more than Jo can I’m afraid, my friend.

            The meaning and significant parts of the books are in the eyes of the beholder, so to you the relationship wasn’t that important, to others it might be more important / significant / central to the story. Absolutely Jo has the right to say what she likes about the series. The rest of us can also say and think anything we want about the series. I did not say she GAVE me or anyone the book. Read again. I said: ‘I don’t think Jo is saying it should have been different or expecting us to look to her to tell us what to make of the books. No it isn’t her world. It’s yours and mine and hers and everybody’s because she chose to SHARE it.’ You agree with me then yes?

            The books are out there whatever else happens or is written. Jo could not as you suggest ‘take the books and rewrite them’ (and of course nobody is suggesting she would want to). She could write new ones which we would all gladly lap up but she could not ‘take’ the existing ones. The genie cannot be put back in the lamp. Regarding the supremacy you claim of your interpretation of Jo’s word on things or indeed your own word on things, I think that you are making the mistake of confusing literature with religion. Jo is not and is not trying to be a religious guru and does not require preachers to spread the word.

          • Julie Grizzlethwart

            Are you in the habit of posting abusive responses to people’s post and then repeatedly deleting their replies to you? In which case this is not a serious discussion, it is your personal ego trip.

          • Julie Grizzlethwart

            Response to comment below by Guest:

            You cannot dictate what is and isn’t significant in the books any more than Jo can I’m afraid, my friend.

            The meaning and significant parts of the books are in the eyes of the beholder, so to you the relationship wasn’t that important, to others it might be more important / significant / central to the story. Absolutely Jo has the right to say what she likes about the series. The rest of us can also say and think anything we want about the series. I did not say she GAVE me or anyone the book. Read again. I said: ‘I don’t think Jo is saying it should have been different or expecting us to look to her to tell us what to make of the books. No it isn’t her world. It’s yours and mine and hers and everybody’s because she chose to SHARE it.’ You agree with me then yes?

            The books are out there whatever else happens or is written. Jo could not as you suggest ‘take the books and rewrite them’ (and of course nobody is suggesting she would want to). She could write new ones which we would all gladly lap up but she could not ‘take’ the existing ones. The genie cannot be put back in the lamp. Regarding the supremacy you claim of your interpretation of Jo’s word on things or indeed your own word on things, I think that you are making the mistake of confusing literature with religion. Jo is not and is not trying to be a religious guru.

    • Scarlett

      She wrote the book. She owns the book. If she wants to have an OPINION on the book she is more than welcome to. And of course her opinions matter, if they didn’t people wouldn’t be making such a big deal about it. And know what she said doesn’t change what is written but its still an interesting piece of information and even though I too prefer Ron and Hermione together I still liked knowing what she thought of their characters’ futures.

  • Jonida Sanço

    Disgraceful! Harry and Hermione would not have worked. There’s no spark there. And I’m sure Ron and Hermione have matured enough to be able to have a semi-healthy relationship

    • Guest

      There’s no spark there because Jo didn’t put one there. There was, however, POTENTIAL. And that’s what Jo is referring to

      • RickJM

        Jo is talking about DH only and the only potential there was for them to act foolishly. They were hurt, angry, lonely. If they would have acted on it, it would have been for the wrong reasons.

        • Guest

          Um no, pretty sure she didn’t mean the potential for “foolish” actions. She refers to DH because when Ron left, H/Hr were there for each other, as they always have been. Jo isn’t some sappy fanfiction writer. Give her some credit.

          • Julie Grizzlethwart

            And if someone was to disagree with this comment, would their response mysteriously disappear? This is what seems to happen to any comments that disagree with your proclamations on things. What is the point of discussion if you insist on engineering things so you have the last word on everything?

          • Guest

            What? Are you saying that I’m deleting your comments? Dude, let’s be serious, how would I even DO that? Maybe your reply was “rude, inappropriate or downright mean” etc? And the hypable staff took it down? Take it up with them.

          • RickJM

            I agree that Jo wasn’t talking about foolish actions. I was stating my own personal view that it be foolish for something to happen because it be for the wrong reasons.

            Rereading my comment, I now see I didn’t do a good job of indicating it was my option.

            But then again, there is this.
            “Oh what are we doing? Come on let’s do it anyway”
            I read that to mean even Jo gets the sense that it may not be the best choice to make.

  • Natalie

    Well, no matter what she says, Ron/Hermione happened in the books. I don’t think it’s fair that she says this after all this time out of the blue (what’s the point) and I hate that Hermione’s being portrayed as perfect because she’s not. I feel like this is a ‘who’s worthy of her love’ and it’s ridiculous. Ron came back. That’s the important thing. He overcame his insecurities and I think that gets overlooked. Whatever, I still ship Ron/Hermione and it won’t change. I don’t think Harry/Hermione are compatible. Too alike and both very much leaders. I like Harry/Ginny but I’m not crazy about it. I would of been okay with Harry marrying somebody else but I think that Ron/Hermione are a good pairing.

  • Wingardium

    From the minute the initial article about this surfaced, actually since the ship wars a few years back, people have been complaining that JKR is somehow taking the value out of Harry and Hermione’s friendship. They’re saying she’s somehow ruined it because Harry and Hermione exemplified powerful platonic love.

    Okay well had they ended up together romantically, what would have happened to Ron and Hermione? They would have been platonic friends who cared for each other deeply. I don’t understand how people fail to see this. Saying JKR is undermining the beauty of the H/Hr friendship by saying it could have lead to romance is extremely trivial and overlooks the fact that had the situation been reversed, Ron and Hermione would have been exactly (maybe not exactly, but something different and just as powerful) what people like so much about the H/Hr friendship. It’s just a technicality at this point and i’m getting really tired of seeing people do this.

    Had it been the other way around and people were wishing for an R/Hr relationship, people would have said things like “but they make such good friends”, “why make it romantic”, “it’s perfect as is”, etc. I believe Ron and Hermione would have made great platonic friends. Especially considering there would be no romantic feelings making them jealous and constantly arguing. I can picture them having a lot of fun together.

    I can’t stand it when people continue to have this debate over “why can’t men and women be just friends?” when they themselves ship a pair of heterosexual adults. Why is it that one set of people need to stay friends but the other has to be romantically involved? Why can’t it be the other way around? It’s not like we’re somehow saying we want R/Hr and H/Hr to have been endgame at the same time because then MAYBE there’d be a point in discussing the “devaluing” of the H/Hr friendship. No, had Hermione ended up with Harry she would have had a platonic, caring, and in my opinion very fun friendship with Ron. It’s not that hard.

    • Eyre

      ^THIS. Personally, I would’ve loved for her to write the books with H/Hr ending up together, not just because H/Hr are perfect but because I’d want to see how Hermione and Ron as friends would be. I agree that it would be beautiful.

    • Spooksy Ghost

      I think part of the point is that Harry’s the MAIN main character. Ron and Hermione are the other two, but Harry’s the number 1 on the list. The true main character of a story often ends up with a love interest of one of their supporting main characters. But this time, Ron and Hermione are the two ‘side-kicks’ who fall in love, whereas Harry falls for one of the ‘significant side-characters’. Ginny was always there, she was definitely important, but she wasn’t the constant like Ron and Hermione were. That’s part of what made it so different.

      So yes, you’re right, Harry and Hermione being involved with Hermione and Ron just being friends does in fact prove the same point, the way all these characters ended up falling into place with each other was just a bit outside the rather exhausted, usual trope. At least, that’s how I see it. :) I feel like Harry and Hermione balance each other best as friends. But you do make a good point! It would have had the same effect of ‘a man and a woman being able to be just friends’, simply flip-flopped. But at least for me, that isn’t the entire point.

  • RickJM

    Hasn’t she said this all in the past. I know I read an interview right after DH where she said that while Harry and Hermione were alone, something could have happened and in the same article she said Ron and Hermione were different but they were just drawn to each other.

    As for the incompatable stuff, I took that to mean that if (not when) R/H were in an adult relationship, they wouldn’t work. But before that, she says they’re in a young (as in they’re teens, not adults) relationship. It illogical to conclude that R/H would behave the same at 25 as they did at 15. They don’t even behave the same at the end of HBP as they do at the beginng and Ron is definitely not the same at the end of DH.

    Jo also seems to agree with Emma that after everything Ron has gone through, he becomes his own man because he has faced down his biggest fears . Overcoming his self esteem issues was his primary arc.

    Jo concludes by stating what she has for the past 7 years – Ron’s humour counter-balances Hermione’s uprightness and that’s why she likes them as a couple.

  • Malachydove

    I’m still a little disappointed. It is as of they take Ron’s sacrifces lightly. He also made some sacrifices, he left his family just like Hermione. He ended up with scars and broken bones just like Harry. He could have listened to Percy and abandon Harry or stay with his mom and play pretend illness, but he chose go fight with Harry.

    As for him growing up, I believe he was already on his way on the last book. I don’t he would be the same old Ron after almost losing Hermione and watching Fred die. It’s just a shame that JKR cant defend him. Of all HP characters, he is the most misunderstood.

  • Nela

    Absolutely disgusting. I don’t know which one of them both I hate more.Keep making your career. Of course, Harry’s more trendy and Ron’s not so famous, not so loved. And you are so wonderful queens so you don’t like to appreciate such a sidekick.

  • Megan

    I knew everything was taken out of context. JKR never said she regrets Ron/Hermione or that Hermione should marry Harry. Sheesh.

  • Saoid

    “fundamental incompatibility” Hit the nail on the wall, IMO.

    • RickJM

      She’s talking about adult relatioshps. Before that she’s says young relationship as in they are still teens. People mature over time. R/H at 26 will not be exactly the same as R/H at 16.

      Rowling: Just like her creator, she has a real weakness for a funny man. These uptight girls, they do like them funny

  • Pencakes

    I’ve never been a fan of the epilogue. I feel like we had all we needed to know about these characters at the last chapter and didn’t really need to know that everyone got married and the names of their children and that it was so sweet and beautiful and rainbows and butterflies.

    But JKR gave it to us. This unbelievably happy ending.

    So why make the endgame so cloyingly picture perfect and then stir the pot in a publication outside of the canon?

  • Alea Kimeona

    When I first saw the dance scene between Harry and Hermione from the movie “Deathly Hallows Part One” my frist reaction was “What!? That is not in the book! Stop this Harry/Hermione parring!!” But when I saw the scene the second time, by watching the movie as what it is I had a different reaction than before.

    The acting between Daniel and Emma was beautiful, I saw a man her best friend/brother was trying his best to cheer up his best friend/sister. It was adorable and sweet!

    Harry and Hermione did share a affectional moment. The two best friends known each other since they were 11 years old. They both been through a lot together. Discovering the Horcuxes, Fighting Death Eaters and dealt with death of a loved ones. Its a lot to take in. Especially they’ve been doing this every year since they were kids.

    They both share a very deep bond of love and care, and it doesn’t mean romantic. Harry and Hermione love each other, because they both understand each other. They dont have a big family like the Weasleys, Hermione has her parents and she is very close to them. And Harry has his aunt and uncle who have a hard time loving him, the only family he’s got is his friends which are the Weasleys and Hermione and everyone else.

    So yes I can see why Jo would say Hermione and Harry will be a perfect match because they both are similar with each other and share the same qualities in their everyday life, the muggle world and the wizardly world. Thats why everyone sees them as more than friends.

    Thats why Ron was threaten by their relationship. He thought he wasn’t good enough for the both of them. He was just the “third wheel” but Ron isn’t the other friend. He was more than their friend he is Harry’s brother from another mother and he is Hermione’s husband. They couldn’t live with out Ron and Ron cant live without them. They are the Golden Trio and no “love triangle” will break them apart.

    I think Ron and Hermione’s romantic relationship began to grow around Order of the Phoenix to Deathly Hallows. Of course the pervious books were when they started to show signs that they liked each other but childish bricking and jealousy started to fade away and made them both realized that they were in love with each other.
    After the Deathly Hallows they started dating and then in do time they married. But they didnt have a “happy ever after” i mean come on who does? Their relationship maybe wasn’t easy because them both were in a war, Ron lost his brother and Hermione dealing with finding her parents that she erased their memories they had with Hermione. And it doesn’t stop their…I mean Ron and Hermione are also very stubborn people …so yes they might’ve had marriage counseling. That doesn’t mean they don’t love each other they just need to grow up and respect each others differences.

    And Ron is a funny man, he relaxes Hermione because she it too uptight, and thats what she needs. Someone to lift her spirits, settle down, and enjoy life. She loves Ron for who he is, she doesn’t care he isn’t the chosen one, has low grades and can be immature she loves him for being Ronald Weasley.

  • Julie Grizzlethwart

    Erika

    7 hours ago

    “Wow, it’s so
    interesting how JKR completely doesn’t get her own character. Sure, Ron felt
    overshadowed and outshined by Harry. Yeah, they had a few fights over the years
    because of it. But, every time, Ron came BACK. In Goblet of Fire, he came back.
    In Deathly Hallows, when coming back was the least safe, least dignified, least
    desirable option, he did it anyway. The person Harry would have missed most was
    Ron. Harry thinks to himself several times that he loves Hermione (ahem,
    “like a sister”!!!!), but she just isn’t the same to him as Ron. The
    only reason Harry and Hermione have to lean on each other emotionally so much
    in DH is that Ron isn’t there. He’s the glue of the group, the heart, the
    humor. Each of them is so essential, and it really angers me that JKR is
    short-changing Ron. You started writing Ron/Hermione as wish fulfillment?
    That’s an interesting and completely inconsequential tidbit that doesn’t change
    a single thing. Whether she likes it or not, these characters aren’t hers
    anymore. And she should probably refrain from acting like her her opinions
    matter at all from now on.”

    Vanessa
    to Erika

    7 hours ago

    “Wow!
    That is the most illogical and unfounded “opinion”(because you’re
    stating this as fact) I have read in this comment section. Okay, so if you
    wrote a story and publish it, it’s no longer yours? You have absolutely NO SAY
    WHATSOEVER in your OWN story because now it belongs to people who don’t know it better than you do?

    Whether you like it or not, this is JOE’S WORLD. This is HER story. She has the final
    say, not you nor anybody else. If you don’t like it, then tough. You may not
    like the Fred died, but it happened. You can’t change someone’s work and world
    because it doesn’t accommodate to your own. Unbelievable, I can’t fathom such a
    ignorant and arrogant statement that was. You need to rethink your place as a
    fan.”

    Julie Grizzlethwart to Vanessa

    • 2 hours ago

    How would you feel if Jo said Fred shouldn’t have died then, that she’d made a mistake, that no one should have died, that Snape should have been Harry’s father, that muggles shouldn’t have been allowed into Hogwarts, that there never should have been a Triwizard Cup, that Voldermort should never have existed in the story,
    that Harry’s parents should never have died, that Hermione should have been a boy,
    that the Ministry of Magic had been a silly idea, that dobby should have been a
    fairy? The person you are replying to is saying she is sticking to, or wants to
    stick to, what is written including things she doesn’t like, like deaths, because that is what is in the book. Because she does respect JK’s position she is finding it hard to discount new comments from the author that seem to fly in the face of some central and cherished tenets of the story. Incidentally I don’t think Jo is saying it should have been different or expecting us to look to her to tell us what to make of the books. No it isn’t her world. It’s yours and mine and hers and everybody’s because she chose to share it. Certain things about it have been decided and set because she wrote them down and published them and we will also make of it all what we will. A book is not a
    prescription. It is an interactive experience.

    Guest to Julie Grizzlethwart

    2 hours ago

    Actually, most of the changes you proposed to make your point would have changed the entire course of the story. R/H vs H/Hr is NOT the main point of Harry Potter. Apples and oranges, my friend.

    Even still, Jo has every right to say anything she wants with the series. Heck, she can take the books and rewrite them all if she so chooses. She didn’t GIVE you Harry Potter. She chose to SHARE the books with the world. And thank goodness she did.”

    Julie Grizzlethwart to Guest:

    You cannot dictate what is and isn’t significant in the books any more than Jo can
    I’m afraid, my friend.

    The meaning and significant parts of the books are in the eyes of the beholder, so
    to you the relationship wasn’t that important, to others it might be more important / significant / central to the story. Absolutely Jo has the right to say what she likes about the series. The rest of us can also say and think anything we want about the series. I did not say she GAVE me or anyone the book. Read again. I said: ‘I don’t think Jo is saying it should have been different or expecting us to look to her to tell us what to make of the books. No it isn’t her world. It’s yours and mine and hers and everybody’s because she chose to SHARE it.’ You agree with me then yes?

    The books are out there whatever else happens or is written. Jo could not as you
    suggest ‘take the books and rewrite them’ (and of course nobody is suggesting she would want to). She could write new ones which we would all gladly lap up but she could not ‘take’ the existing ones. The genie cannot be put back in the lamp. Regarding the supremacy you claim of your interpretation of Jo’s word on things or indeed your own word on things, I think that you are making the mistake of confusing literature with religion. Jo is not and is not trying to be a religious guru and does not require preachers to spread the word.

  • birdie

    While I agree that Harry/Hermione is the best match of the two, I also consider the debate between Ron/Hermione vs Hermione/Harry to be a debate on which incestuous pairing is the best match.

  • DrWho-Glee-HP-Fan

    I think people are making a bigger deal out of this than it is. Keep in mind over how long a time span she wrote these books. She worked on SS/PS for 6 years before it was published in 1997, and DH wasn’t published until 2007, and now it’s been 7 years since then. So she’s had approximately 23 years to reflect on these books, plots, characters, etc. Most authors, artists, inventors, etc look back on their work and change their mind about things they did, and have things that they wish they’d done differently, especially their works from early in their careers. It’s really not that big of a deal; she’s just reflecting back on her work and making a critique in hindsight, as an author.

  • Kadma Sixx

    I just find it funny that people are still discussing and going all nuts about this when:

    1. Hermione is so much more than Harry or Ron’s girl. She saved their asses so many times they can’t even keep track.

    2. What’s canon is canon, no matter what.

    3. Rowling created them and she knows them better than any of us.

    4. Is not relevant anyway, because this wasn’ta love triangle teenage love novel.

    So yeah. We should carry on with our lives.

  • Romione

    So, Ron has security issues but he leaves his best friend and the girl he likes alone and they “might have had something”? I’m glad JK only thought of it and didn’t write it because it would’ve been so not an issue, if you know what I mean. Even if he has them, he sure will get over them after the war and/or becoming an Auror.

    Anyway, what I’m trying to say is yeah Ron left Harry and Hermione, but that doesn’t mean the whole journey wasn’t his as well. Yeah, it’s easy to stay if you have nowhere to go. Hermione’s parents were safe after all. He was right about that, And yes, he said some cruel things but he was also very worried about his family, is that really a sin?

    And yes, they had a fight in the GOF but no body remembers all the fights Harry and Hermione had in the prisioner of azkaban? They had stupid fight over stupid things but still they happened. And every time Harry and Ron fought, Harry felt very very sad and let’s face it, he was bored.

    Another point is, when Ron and Harry weren’t talking to each other, both times Ron came back. When they were mad at Hermione Ron offered her his help and he made up with her si he pretty much glues the trio.

    And last but not least, if Hermione has a thing for funny guys, how on earth is she going to fall for Harry in the first place?

    So, it’s bitterly dissappointing how JK has such a poor image of Ron when he is the most realistic character of all and has shown in each one of the books that he’s grown.

  • Sel U Own My Heart!

    They never even mentioned Ginny…

  • mickie

    I always saw a potential for Harry and Hermione. It never occurred to me that there was a potential for her and Ron until Goblet of Fire and then the way he treated her because of his jealousy over Krum ruined it for me. I will always be a Harmony shipper

    • RickJM

      C’mon Mickie, give the guy a break. He was 14 in GoF, just realized he fancied his best friend who was basically seeing the Beckham, Jordan, Woods (pick your sport) of the wizarding world. You think you would have handled it better? I know I wouldn’t have.

  • Dashdidntdoit

    This bombshell I feel has nothing to do with the characters themselves but Jo. At the time, she probably loved the real life person she based Ron on and as time passes realised she was just romanticising what was not.
    But you broke my heart Jo! #weaselyisourking

  • Guest

    You should know, Jo, that according to some recent studies, the couples that have constant but moderate arguments last longer that those couples who never fight. Google it!

  • Guest

    Jo, if you had said: “hey, people who think Ron’s not good enough for Hermione, hear me out! Forget about what the movies did to my characters, and read the books. If you have read them, then do it again, but this time pay attention. When you’re done, tell me if you still believe that!” I would’ve so loved you!

  • Cassidy Howell

    “but why is she like this?”
    -”because you chose her.”

  • HypableUser

    Emma looks like a little girl playing dress up in that vid lol.
    I like this interview in that they focus on the book characters despite discussing the movies, and Emma having played movie Hermione doesn’t seem biased about their characters.
    I think Jo is right in saying they may be ok in the future. I think losing Fred will have changed Ron a lot – he won’t be competitive as he will realise he was happier in his position than he is without Fred, and Hermione will obviously grow out of always having to give the right answer – to the point where all marriages go, that of the wife being right :’) . They provide a nice balance.
    I’ve never been a shipper so I don’t really care – whoever Jo says ended up together, ended up together for me. But looking back, even the tent scenes don’t suggest romance between H and H for me, they just represent the strength of their bond – the kind of bond where neither has to fill the gaps. They are soul mates, for sure, but not in a romantic way. Harry is ignorant and reckless a lot of the time (like his dad and godfather?), and I can see this bringing up problems in a marriage with Hermione more than anything Ron does.

  • Lana

    Ok, this popped up on my news feed and I had to post it here :))

  • GuestCommenterGirl

    [Repost. I guess I did something wrong before. Sorry.]

    Harry + Hermione would not have been “boring.” It would have been beautiful, epic, and perfect. They really *should* have ended up together.

    Furthermore—and I hope I’m wrong about this—I think early on Rowling had some repressed biases against girls like Hermione, which left her unable to envision the character (an awkward duckling, I won’t say ugly) getting the highly desirable hero, with a great destiny ahead of him, plus looks & charm in spades.

    For me, the saddest part about this isn’t quite that it took Rowling so long to realize the potential & beauty—the *harmony*( sorry, I couldn’t resist!) or Harry & Hermione together. But rather that, in effect, it basically means she never saw Hermione as anything other than a sundry sidekick for Harry until fairly recently.—not the heroine of the story. :’(

    That said, I’m so glad Hermione grew into the beautiful, graceful, & powerful swan she was meant to be, even with Rowling’s best efforts against her. I think that this character, more than any other really took on a life of her own. And I will give Watson some credit for that, she was a great Hermione in the movies!

    Now, if only Hermione could get a second chance to find her *real* Prince Charming, with his lightening bolt scar and all. ;)

  • Marina

    I think that H/Hr had a beautiful friendship the way that it was written and as this interview says there was an inevitable “what if” which i think was also evident in the books, that in such a strong relationship would be unrealistic not to put in. But despite this there was a developed brother sister relationship, with definitely a lot of love but ultimately platonic. Nowhere does JKR insinuate that Hermione and Harry should have been together or that she regrets not putting them together, only that Hermione and Harry might have been better suited because they were similar in a lot of ways. It is still a big “maybe” and no matter what JKR says after the fact, what matters is what is actually written in the books, and it is really up to everyone’s interpretation. I also always thought that the romantic relationships in the books were actually pretty minor parts of the plot as a whole, which the movies for the sake of entertainment uplayed. One thing that I personally disliked in the books which I think is a bigger issue than Harry and Hermione not ending up together was the pairing of Ginny and Harry; which I thought was a bit forced. Ginny was never really developed as a character, or at least the the extent that Harry was, and so it felt that there was no real evidence that they would be compatible. It also felt like they were just put together for the sake of Harry ending up with someone at the end, and having a seemingly “perfect” wrap up. It didn’t seem like Harry and Ginny had any real chemistry or that they even talked that much in the books.

  • casey

    why does JKR always throw out bits like this after the series is over lol. as an ardent RH shipper this artcile is mildly annoying. i never understood H/H shippers because there is basically no canon evidence to support that pairing…even JK seems to agree with that in this interview. she went with r/h in the end bc it had always been set up that way, even if she later changed her mind. even if hermione diidnt marry ron, she still shouldnt have ended up with harry. H/H has no chemistry whatsoever. they get along greatly like brother and sister mostly, but their relationship would be bland and boring imo.

    my greatest gripe in the movies is the oversimplification of ron. in the movies they make him some bumbling oaf and hermione the best person alive. harry and hermione also share a bunch of deep emotional moments in the movies which never happen in the books.

    as to who is harrys closest friend…its clearly ron. even harry says inGOF “there was a lot less laughter and alot more hanging in the library when hermione was your best friend”…im paraphrasing but thats the gist. ron is the thing harrys would miss the most in the 2nd triwizard task, not hermione. while harry loves them both greatly and obviously hermione is his bestie as well, ron is still one notch above.

    hermione was always one of the most annoying characters to me (being a ron type of person myself lol). i like her dont get me wrong, but beyond being critical shes also self-righteous, condescending and more. ron can be insensitive & lazy, so everyones flawed.

    harry and ginny bothered me more than h/h would. ginny went from non-entity to this amazing human. i feel that got together so harry could truly be part of the weasley fam and bc ginny is the new lily and blah blah but it all felt too contrived to me!

    ahhh look at me arguing about harry potter on the internet…brings me back to my youthful days haha.

  • Weeezley

    WHY ISN’T ANYBODY SHIPPING LUNA AND HARRY.
    Has it ever crossed Jo’s brilliant mind that Garry was not exactly the fab pair? I mean, I personally thought he’d end up marrying Luna or maybe a muggle. Ginny had one of those, cute crushes or whatever you call on Harry, yes, but she was, ugh, she liked him because he was famous. In OotP, it’s obvious that Harry don’t have anything to do with people who’re behind him for his fame. He clears that up in their first pep talk or whatever in Hog’s Head. In the end he marries someone who liked him because of his fame. That’s just…I donno…not-fitting-in?

  • Lerere

    At first I thought Ron and Hermione would make a good couple but years later I don’t really see a lot of chemistry between them, I think Hermione and Harry would have had more “chemistry”

  • Julie Ortiz

    its good that she finally realizes that hermione would have been better off with harry than with ron i don’t think hermione would have been able to tolerate him for longer that six months at the most and come really close to killing him plus ginny was really just an obsessed fan girl i don’t see how that worked out sure she matured but not enough also why keep the gloves on let’s take them off dumbleidiot was a manipulative, underhanded, lying, sadistic bastard who willingly and knowingly put a one year old with people who he knew hated all things magic and never once checked up on him and every year sent him back to that hellhole in their fourth year he knew harry was with the weasley’s and yet didn’t know he was being starved and abused nearly all his life he made harry a sacrificial lamb also who else agrees that lily potter nee evans was an insecure little bitch she married the same man who tortured and bullied her childhood friend after she turned her back on him for one mistake also why did snape die if you follow the whole potion’s masters are notorious for being paranoid wouldn’t he know voldermort was going to kill him and have a back up plan also if we are going to be technical about who hermione would have truly meshed with it would have been snape rowling made their lives to be hundreds of years old so hermione being as mature as she was i really don’t see her having a problem with being with someone who is older and more intellectually stimulating as for harry he and luna would have been perfect she was there for him since the beginning of their friendship and they truly had a connection that they didn’t share with any one else and i could add more but really who else thinks that harry and ron being best friends was absolute crap if nothing more than ron continually turning his back on harry and being jealous of him but also ron was a verbal bully case in point first year and hermione after being bullied by his cousin i doubt harry would have really wanted to stay friends or even really be a friend to ron after he witnessed ron bullying hermione also the only character that was truly a well rounded and believable character was tom marvolo riddle the others were lacking

  • Maureen

    Now what’s the point? Harry and Hermoine were the better fit from the very first book. What a waste

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