Supernatural’s new showrunner Jeremy Carver teases the direction of season 8 and the changing relationship between Sam and Dean in a new interview.

Speaking to IGN, Carver reveals how he cooperated with former showrunner Sera Gamble when taking over:

It’s an enormous thrill to be back. The show has developed wonderfully well over the last couple of seasons, and the timing was fortuitous. So yeah, it’s really exciting. Sera and I had many conversations, but specifically in terms of story I think she said, “I think I left you with a lot of options. Good luck.” I think that was it. But no, we had a great conversation about it. We looked at it anew and decided to go where it’s going to head.

As for what we can expect in season 8, Carver says that the brothers will begin a process of starting to relate to each other in a new way after their different transformative experiences over the years. He also hints that their outlook on life and where they expect to see themselves might be very different now than it would have been when the show started.

It seems like we can expect a very introspective season! Do you think that’s a good change of pace from the action-packed Leviathan year we just came off of?