Join us as we discuss Buffy the Vampire Slayer season 5, episode 20, “Spiral,” “Intervention” and Angel season 2, episode 20, “Over the Rainbow.”

Superfans: Karen and Maj
Newbies: Brittany and Ariana

Fun Facts:
Brittany sent Karen a Hercules book from her childhood. Ariana was in the same room as Roxanne Gay and she is not as intimidating as Ariana thought! Maj did not like S Town, contrary to all the hype. Karen say Caitlin and MET GAGE!

Buffy the Vampire Slayer season 5, episode 20, “Spiral”:
-Fight or flight? Buffy is done fighting for a bit
-Why did everyone go?
-Do Anya and Xander add anything to the group at this point?
-Spike, on the other hand, adds some value
-This change in Spike is interesting to watch
-Does Buffy change her principles to kill these knights?
-The Whedon-esque language takes some getting used to
-But it’s season 5 and Brittany is still not feeling “horsies”
-PLEASE FUND GILES’ RECOVERY CAMPAIGN
-Ben wants to protect his life
-Does the fact that he is a doctor play into his moral compass?
-Even the hell gods don’t like Glory
-At least we have a backstory for Glory
-Can Dawn exist outside of the key form?
-Why did they MAKE THE KEY A HUMAN?
-Could we use Dawn as a weapon? Would you?
-Favorite Scenes
-Favorite Lines

Angel season 2, episode 20, “Over the Rainbow”:
-Watching this episode against Buffy worked really well
-Angel and Wesley’s reactions show how they view Cordelia
-So. Many. Emotions. From. Angel.
–Angel and Buffy are both dealing with the end of the world, but one is doing great character work
-Gunn is still rethinking his priorities
-Gunn’s arc is telling an interesting story in Angel
-What do we think about him coming back to AI?
-Lorne’s story gets a bit more meat
-Aggie provides a way for Lorne to look in the mirror for a bit
-ANGEL IN THE SUN!
-But they lost the book. Whoops.
-Cordelia, the cow
-Fred is crazy, but who wouldn’t be after living in a hell dimension for 5 years?
-Cordelia is not your typical damsel in distress
-Favorite Scenes
-Favorite lines

Listener Feedback:
-Newbie predictions continue to amuse
-Poor Syracuse. It is not as interesting as the Hellmouth
-The shifting tones of Buffy and Angel makes it hard to flip back and forth. Agree?

Brittany’s Brainstorms/Ariana’s Assumptions:
–Buffy the Vampire Slayer season 5, episode 20, “The Weight of the World”
–Angel season 2, episode 20, “Through the Looking Glass”

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