Ellie Marney discusses the conclusion of her Every series, gives us a verdict on Sherlock vs Elementary, and more.

I sat down with Ellie Marney in celebration of Every Move, the final book in her Sherlock Holmes-inspired Every series, which is released this week in Australia. I started off by talking about the tropes that Marney has so successfully avoided in this series.

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Hypable: Mycroft is a tortured genius character, but without some of the poor social skills that often accompanies that type of character.

Ellie Marney: Sherlock was always slightly socially incompetent, not because he couldn’t pull it off when he needed to, but because he just didn’t care. Mycroft has differences because he does have that veneer of social acceptability. He’s really very good at making lots of superficial friends but doesn’t really tell people what’s going underneath.

Hypable: And Rachel is much more than the sidekick, or the typical Watson.

EM: I wanted her to have agency. I didn’t want her to be just standing on the sidelines and helping him out. They had to be an equal pair; they had to be a snooping duo. In the traditional Sherlock and Watson, Watson was just accompanying Holmes and really recording it. I felt like I owed it to me, because I’m writing it, and to Rachel; I didn’t want her to be completely passive.

Female characters have outgrown that role. It was really important that she have a lot of agency, and that she be doing things and contributing to the investigation. Although Mycroft is acknowledged as the “genius,” she has a lot of practical skills and also she’s extremely intelligent herself. We can see how they compliment each other, but also where Rachel takes the lead.

Hypable: And we see it a lot more in this book. In Every Word, Mycroft is saving the day using his somewhat unorthodox skills, whereas in Every Move we are really in Rachel’s comfort zone on the farm. Was that choice just about balancing the relationship, or taking Mycroft out of his comfort zone, or was it something else?

EM: I covered elements of Mycroft’s personal history in the second book, so I felt it was really important to see Rachel’s history in the third book. I went to London to research the second book, and being able to be in it was really important. It was only when I started researching for the third book and I had to go up to Ouyen that I realized how much of the location feeds into the character. I wanted to show that she was on her home ground and that she has the home ground advantage. She knows the lay of the land, she knows the people, she knows how they react, she knows the equipment, she knows the weaponry and the machines, and she knows which cars are local.

All of those geographical aspects give her a real advantage. And also, it’s painful, because it’s nostalgia and she has a real sense of loss. She’s kind of torn by it at the same time. And I liked that aspect, to throw her into a bit of turmoil, but also to give the readers an insight into her as a person through the location I put her back in, and also that she be able to use what she knew to her own advantage.

Hypable: In terms of tropes, the major one you sidestep in this is the love triangle. What I really appreciated was the characters recognizing that, “Hey, someone is trying to kill us, maybe this isn’t the time to have romantic turmoil.”

EM: “Maybe this is not the moment.” I love how they do that in movies. “Oh, we’re being chased down a dark alley by some monster. Let’s just stop for a moment to have some heavy breathing and talk about our relationship.”

Hypable: Was it a conscious decision to deconstruct that, or did it not even occur to you?

EM: I really wanted it to sound real. That’s always been my thinking from the start, from when I first started writing the first book. I wanted it to be an adventure, and have all the meta Sherlock Holmes references, so it’s a lot of fun, but it’s a forensic mystery at heart. If you’re going to insert blood and gore and make that a significant aspect of the plot, you need to have a certain solemnity. To counteract the adventurous, fun parts, I wanted it to be quite real sounding. So if there was ever a choice, if I needed Rachel to make a choice in a situation, I tried to choose the one that I thought sounded like what a real teenager would choose in that situation. A more common sense decision, she’s a very common sense-driven person.

And we worked so hard to not make that a love triangle. I knew that as soon as there was another guy mentioned on the back of the book, everyone would go, “Oh my god! Love triangle!” Because people hate that, at the moment. I think people have love triangle fatigue. And I’ve read that trope so many times. I love Harris as a character, but a really essential part of Rachel’s character is that she’s very loyal. I was never going to go there. And in fact, I went through the manuscript with my editor and said, “Can you please help me make sure that there’s absolutely nothing in there.” We wanted to give the suggestion that she’s aware that he’s an attractive guy of approximately her own age, that he could be set up in this situation, and My is obviously aware of it, but Rachel’s just not registering it.

Hypable: Harris is a great character.

EM: Yeah, I love Harris. He’s such a sweetheart, and he has all of the great lines.

Hypable: You’ve written a crime series that just happens to be about teenagers. Have you had any pushback from your publishers or editors, or even readers? Not just with this book, but across the series.

EM: I haven’t had any pushback. That’s been the thing that’s kind of amazed me. There’s actually been times when I’ve wondered if it’s too gory. I’m very careful with language choice, and how I phrase things. You don’t need a full autopsy description. What you evoke in your imagination is enough for a YA book, and often works better generally, YA or not. Maybe it’s just people are inured; although I don’t know if you could say kids are inured to it. I don’t know if you really get inured to it if it’s framed in a personal way.

But teenagers like to not be talked down to. People die, they know that people get autopsied, and the forensic side