The Captain America: Civil War post-credits scene showed Marvel’s newest hero back at home, licking his wounds after Leipzig. Two of our writers discuss the potential that this moment provides.

Yesterday, we brought you a break-down of the first Captain America: Civil War post-credits scene, featuring Steve and Bucky in Wakanda, and now we’re tackling the second one – the true Civil War after-credits moment, involving Tom Holland’s new iteration of Peter Parker, back home in his bedroom in Queens, nursing a black eye and making discoveries about his new StarkTech Spider-Man suit. Two of Hypable’s biggest Marvel fans, Natalie and Donya, examine the Spidey-centric Civil War post-credits scene and how it may affect the upcoming solo movie, Spider-Man: Homecoming.

Natalie: So the second scene – we didn’t have it at the premiere I went to, and it wasn’t on the early U.S. preview screenings either, so that was new on the actual release night for me, no spoilers. Peter back at home – how did you like it?

Donya: I really loved it! Not only because the Russos managed to trick me into being stupidly excited about Spider-Man again, but. The joking about being beat up by Steve from Brooklyn? And Aunt May’s “I’ll fight him” attitude.

Natalie: His friend was HUGE.

Donya: You could say he was… Giant, man.

Natalie: *CHOKES*

Donya: But it really gave us more of a look at what that relationship is like, and more of what we can expect from Spider-Man: Homecoming.

Natalie: I really want May to meet Steve and figure out “THAT is Steve from Brooklyn?” But okay. I don’t know much about this Iron Spider business, but what is the deal with his Bat Signal? I’ve never seen that on any Spider-Man suit.

Donya: Aha, the Spidey-signal. It used to be on his belt, in some of the classic Spider-Man comics. He’d use it to basically announce his arrival. It was also a handy light source in the dark, and I think in a recent upgrade he had a UV version that let him look at crime scenes forensically.

Natalie: It looked like more of a computer system, like a JARVIS. I assume this Spider-Man will have some pretty unusual stuff, to differentiate from the last 18 Spider-Men.

Donya: Yeah, the actual Spidey-face is the classic logo for the signal, so that’s definitely a nod. But I got some serious vibes that it was going to be like the interface that the Iron Man and Patriot suits use.

Natalie: Yeah, an interface, that’s the word. So do you think Homecoming as a title will have more of a meaning than the fourth-wall breaking he’s back at Marvel?

Donya: Well, considering we’re heading back to high school, it’ll probably have something to do with that. I kind of hope we get a ridiculous “who will Peter go to homecoming with?” plot. But that might also be my ridiculous ’90s rom-com bias showing.

Natalie: Oh lol yeah. We don’t have homecoming in Australia so I forgot that word had meaning. Chances of them doing that thing Andrew Garfield suggested and like casually making MJ a boy instead of a girl?

Donya: Funny you should say that, I had been theorising about that with a friend recently That MJ might be a boy instead.

Natalie: Very low, admittedly, but I shall forever love Garfield for openly wanting it and talking about it. Imagine if they pulled it off though, like didn’t even make a statement in advance and had his whole thing with Gwen and end of Homecoming, he meets the new kid next door… “Hey, I’m Martin James Watson. Everyone calls me MJ.” CUT. And everyone is like OOOOOOOOOOOH NO THEY DIDN’T.

Donya: Listen, it is all I want for Spider-Man. All I want. Because that’s the exact situation that I’ve been throwing around about how it could, feasibly, happen. Because, don’t get me wrong, I adore the Peter and Gwen relationship. But that? That would get me full-steam ahead on the Peter and MJ hype train.

Natalie: Do you think Homecoming will firmly be set after Civil War, or will they flash back to the origin story?

Donya: After. I don’t think it’s something they need to revisit. The origin story. And they’ve been talking about how they don’t want to do that, in interviews. We got a variation on the “With great power” speech in Civil War. I’d kind of like that to be it… And really, do we NEED to see Uncle Ben die again? No. The answer is no.

Natalie: I actually have some questions about Aunt May regarding that, I have two things, no, three things. Number one, what the hell is the big deal about her age and people thinking it’s ridiculous that she’s been de-aged through the films, that she’s now super young? Marisa Tomei is over 50. Like… that’s fine. Plus it’s actually probably weirder for a 16 year old kid to have an aunt – not a great aunt, an actual aunt – who is 70? Like, perhaps current May is not the weirdness here.

Donya: I mean, with two different Spider-Man franchises out there already, audiences probably got a view in their minds about what Aunt May “looks like.” But, I’m there with you. Marisa Tomei is of an age that lines up with Tom Holland’s, so I don’t understand why people got so up in arms. If they just stopped to think…

Natalie: Everyone in comics has parents that are too old. She’s always been drawn as an old lady and it’s like… okay, unless the Parker parents included her husband’s BABY brother by over 10 years, it doesn’t make a ton of sense. I’m always doing the math with the Starks like that too, they must have had him SO late in life.

Donya: Which, y’know, isn’t… completely out there. There’s about 20 years between my Dad and his next sibling. But it’s not the average situation, by far, that the comics would have you believe.

Natalie: Yeah, I have a brother 15 years older than me and I’d definitely let him be the next of kin for my non-existent kids, but they kind of just act like no, that is how old parent-aged people are. So the second tiny thing about May: do you think they would ACTUALLY get her and Tony together? Is Gwyneth like, donezo, gone, out? That [Tony/Pepper] was such a huge relationship for the franchise. In the comics May marries J. Jonah Jameson at some point after Ben, which… they could kind of replicate that with the whole getting together with Peter’s mentor/boss thing. But also she seemed like… fine. Was there ever an Uncle Ben in this universe? I’m not saying that people have to cover their houses in Victorian black mourning crepe, and people are resilient and cope in different ways, but he wasn’t referenced and it didn’t vibe like it was a family who had a massive loss 6 months ago.

Donya: Well, I’ll admit, I did come out feeling the Tony and May vibe. And I’m not sorry about being in that shipping camp. I’ve been a fan of stranger pairings. But as of Iron Man 3, Gwyneth Paltrow’s contract ended, so unless they re-negotiate, we might not see her again. Which kinda sucks, from a Tony and Pepper standpoint, because they really did have an interesting arc with those two. And I wonder if there just wasn’t enough time to explore their grief, in such a short selection of scenes. And yeah, we didn’t get a specific reference to Ben, but Peter did echo his “Great Power” speech.

Natalie: Vaguely, but I’m wondering if maybe this is just something Peter came to on his own, Like totally wiping out that traditional backstory. Would you be okay with that?

Donya: I… wouldn’t be opposed to that, actually. It’d definitely mix it up and give us a Peter and Spider-Man we haven’t seen before. I mean, we’ve seen Uncle Ben die twice already. It’s like Bruce Wayne’s parents — we know, we know what it does to them. Give us something we don’t know?

Natalie: Hahahahahaha imagine Bruce Wayne becoming Batman with zero motivation though. I want that movie, just insane billionaire on a bat-based ego trip. The difference with Peter is that he gets his powers regardless. He doesn’t choose to become enhanced, he’s just a dick about it for a while. His speech does have a bit of a blame tone to it – “when the bad things happen, they happen because of you,” – which is frankly not true, like it’s too harsh, but I am assuming something happened that he feels is his fault. I guess we’ll see later, no matter what they claim, I cannot imagine that Homecoming won’t, in some way, let us know the origin.

Donya: I’m actually excited at the idea that it might be something completely different. And hey, if Tony is going to be around in Homecoming, maybe Peter will tell him the “long story.”

Natalie: But my final question in relation to Aunt May is: do you think she knows something is going on? Because in this post-credits scene, when she sits down with him and kind of pauses, I totally thought she was going to drop in a little zinger that was like “whoaaaaaa she totally knows.” Did you get that vibe at all or am I nuts?

Donya: I… Didn’t get that vibe. But I’m definitely going to have to look for that when I inevitably go back and watch it. Again. And wouldn’t that be something? Peter trying desperately to keep Aunt May out of danger by keeping his identity and superheroing a secret, and May waiting for him to come clean. I am stupidly excited for Homecoming and it’s all the Russos’ fault.

Natalie: I’m stupidly excited for Black Panther and it’s all the Russos’ fault, but to be fair, that was always the more interesting property.

Donya: Yeaaaah. I was always excited for that. But with pretty-much-confirmation that the Dora Milaje are going to be in it too? Excitement off the charts.

Natalie: The fact that they do have us asking questions about Spider-Man and not feeling like we have seen it all before is pretty great.

Donya: Oh my god. Right? Being able to theorize about Spider-Man is a brand new experience. Much as I loved Andrew Garfield, The Amazing Spider-Man was kinda predictable.

Natalie: The thing I’m curious about is the actual supernatural element of his powers, because Civil War was really cagey about addressing it. Because Spidey… he’s not a mutant, but he’s not self made either, He’s closest to Steve, actually, in that he’s affected by some mythological science. But I wonder what the MCU’s canon for it will be.

Donya: Yeah, I think they’ll play it off as a genetic mutation, but via science. Something that has altered his DNA. Which, considering Steve, wouldn’t be completely out there.

Natalie: Can’t say the M word! But yeah.

Donya: It makes the most sense, really.

Natalie: Well, I’m at least moderately interested in it, I guess. I loved Garfield and I loved his approach to the role, and it is not his fault those movies went badly, so I’m sad for him. I would have loved to keep that Spidey and pass him to the MCU as a long-running separate superhero.

Donya: I don’t disagree with you. I loved Andrew Garfield’s take on Peter. And honestly, I think about the “chocolate house” smile a lot. But if I want to keep seeing anyone as Spider-Man… Tom Holland is definitely who I’d want. Which are NOT words I ever expected to hear myself say.

Natalie: I just did the most pathetic little uncontrolled fond spluttery laugh reading “chocolate house.” But yeah, I guess we’ll see how this goes.

Donya: I’m not as… skeptical about it any more. Definitely not what I thought one of my take-aways from Civil War would be, but here we are.

Natalie: I’m not filled with joy like some people – I have no mega care for the screenwriters, and the director has no history to speak of, it could really be a wild card. But like, he was fine, in this movie, it was fine. People seem very excited but like, y’all know my priorities. If the Russos join as executive producers, I’ll really start listening.

Did the Captain America: Civil War post-credits scene get you hyped for ‘Homecoming’?

Related: Read our breakdown of the first Civil War after-credits scene featuring Bucky.