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Posted on 3:30 pm,
February 15, 2012

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The fourth episode of Secret Diaries Chat is here! Listen to the hosts discuss the latest episodes of The Vampire Diaries and The Secret Circle, ‘Dangerous Liaisons ’ and ‘Valentine’!

This week all the hosts are back! Selina, Laura, Jen, Sonya, and Sarah begin by discussing the episodes and responding to some listener comments from last week’s show. If you want to skip ahead to The Secret Circle part of the podcast, it starts at about the 24:00 minute mark.

In the discussion of The Vampire Diaries 3×14 ‘Dangerous Liaisons’, Selina, Jen, Sonya, and Sarah discuss:
- The new developments in the Damon/Elena and Stefan/Elena relationships
- Is Damon too controlling of Elena?
- Is Damon back to being the bad guy and Stefan back to being the good guy?
- The dynamic between Klaus and Caroline
- Our views on Klaus’s relationship issues
- Does Rebecca have feelings for Matt?
- Why didn’t Elena tell Elijah about Esther’s plan?
- How we feel about Esther/Finn/Kol after this episode
- Whether or not we think Esther’s plan will work
- And so much more!

In the discussion of The Secret Circle 1×14 ‘Valentine’ Selina, Laura, Jen, Sonya, and Sarah discuss:
- How we felt about Diana as a free spirit
- The difference between the magic on this show vs. other witch shows
- Is Melissa physically or emotionally addicted to devil’s spirit?
- The changing dynamic between the girls of the circle
- Possessed Adam and the Cassie/Jake/Adam dynamic of the church scene
- The crushing of the medallion and whether or not the power is really gone
- How does Faye really feel about Jake and Lee?
- Where the heck are the adults?
- Much, much more!

In the listener feedback section, the hosts discuss whether or not they think Elena and Matt could ever get back together, the original doppelganger, whether or not Jeremy is killing the council members, a listener clears up Lucy’s role with the witch hunters, which show was better this week, and was the medallion used to seal the parent’s power away!

Contribute your theories and thoughts to the next episode of the Secret Diaries Chat by commenting on this post, emailing secretdiaries@hypable.com or tweeting us @SecretDiariesTV!

This episode's hosts: Selina Wilken, Laura Byrne-Cristiano, Jen Lamoreaux, Sonya Faria, Sarah Maloy

  • Anonymous

    WOOOOOOO!!!!!! I have been stalking Hypable for 2 days waiting for this. Soon as I’m finished college work, I’m heading bed and this is going on(dancing jig) xD

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1381504748 Hibaq Farah

    I find it funny how people (not just here but everywhere) nitpick about the dresses and the dance. Does it really matter how they know it? This is a show about Vampires, Werewolves, Hybrids, witches and ghost. Suspending your disbelief about the little things are easy. I don’t know just… LOL

  • Anonymous

    LOVE THE EP GUYS!!!!! Just a few quick things(EDIT:LOL in retrospect):

    I agree it is really odd to have a giant church out in the middle of nowhere. But I think maybe it was the headquarters of the Nedaros clan that John killed. Why else would you build a giant church out in the middle of a forest with no access to it by road? And as you said, it was designed in the gothic style, a style originating from Medieval Europe, where the Nedaros coven emigrated from to Chance Harbour(at least according to Jake).

    Jake is def using Faye more than she is him. Faye actually has feelings for Jake. Jake’s made it clear in previous eps he doesn’t return those feelings and is only going with her to feel better over Cassie slipping away from him.I can’t remember if it was Isaac or Jake that said it but one of them said that, now that the medallion was awakened, every single witch dead or alive, whose power it had stolen would know that it was back and would come searching for it. Thus, we can assume that the medallion does not kill the witch when it steals their powers. I think this was part of the reason Cassie was so horrified when Jake told her her dad killed them. He didn’t have to kill them(unless the killing effect of the medallion is like russian roulette. Some survive. Some don’t). But he killed them anyway.Also, in Balcoin, Isaac said “Cassie Blake is not the only child of Blackwell in the Circle”. Therefore, there are only 6 candidates: Faye, Jake, Nick, Adam, Diana and Melissa. Eva(Lee’s comatose girlfriend) cannot be the other Blackwell child as she is not a Circle member.Speaking of Eva, I have a theory of where her story will go. Its safe to assume she is a witch. Otherwise, she would not be able to harness the power Lee stole from Faye for her. Also, it would explain how Lee was able to park in front of the school and identify all the members of Faye’s circle on sight. He’d had experience with witches before. Lee told us that it was her addiction to devil spirit that landed her in a coma in the first place(I think I read somewhere SPOILER ALERT she was high and got in a car crash). Thus we can assume that she has a very volatile personality. Whether she is temporarily sapping away Faye’s power or is taking it, conflict between Faye and Eva is guaranteed.

    Anyway, i digress: Back to my theory on Eva. I’d say there is a strong chance her conflict with Faye will lead to conflict with Cassie(Cassie has proven herself more than willing to pwn anyone and anything that messes with her Circle). I wouldn’t be surprised if Eva will push Cassie too far and Eva’s life will be the first one claimed by Cassie’s dark magic. Either that or Faye will kill her trying to defend herself. Either way, I’d say Eva’s days are numbered(and she hasn’t even properly joined the show yet xD). She landed herself in a coma once. I doubt it’ll take her long to end up there(or worse) again. Eva doesn’t seem like a pacifist.

    Eva may also be a link to introduce another Circle later on in the series. When Mr. Wilson(the guy Jake killed in Masked) was talking to Ethan, he said “I was never a part of your Circle.” Does this mean that all witches have a Circle or are there some lone wolves too? If Eva is a member of a Circle, they won’t be very happy if they come back for the big reunion when she wakes up, only to find that Cassie lost the plot and killed her, as I suspect she might.

    As for the medallion, I’d say John never came back for it for fear someone would recognize him. John seems like the kind of guy who had the quite the reputation for himself back in the day and, if anyone saw him, there’d be uproar. We have seen in a Return sneak peek how he really doesn’t want anyone to know he’s in town. Can you imagine Jane’s face when she sees him. It’ll be so epic if him and Cassie share some nice fatherly moment and then Jane walking in and drops her suitcase in shock. 

    As for the medallion’s power, maybe it died with the medallion, maybe the Church structure absorbed it(kinda like how the Briar Hill house has some of John’s dark magic sealed in that mark in the basement), maybe it latched itself onto the only living things it could find(Cassie, Adam and Jake)(a la how Harry became a Horcrux lol). Who knows?

    Sorry for the long comment again. As a born and bred mugglecast fan, I have a tendency to over analyse and I always try and picture where the characters are going in my fave shows. It makes it more fun.

    Anyway, see you in “Return my Children”(I presume that’ll be the next ep’s name. Sounds better than “All my Return”)

  • Anonymous

    As for Vampire Diaries(and I’ll keep it short after my Secret Circle proclamation):

    Honestly, I’m glad Elena told Damon where to stuff it. Do they not realize that every plan they’ve ever had had been blocked at every turn by Damon. The only plan he was on board with was the Homecoming one and that was cos Elena wasn’t involved. Katherine was(BTW Where the hell is she? I miss her). Its like he doesn’t realize Elena has been the central cause of every single supernatural happening in Mystic Falls since the day she was born. She has to be part of the solution or it’ll never work. All these people whining about Elena’s treatment of Damon are just Delena shippers with their nose out of joint.

    Although I think she needs to stop grovelling with Stefan and kick him to the kerb. Elena just needs a clean break from the Salvatores in every romantic way for at least a full season. Or at least until they both get an attitude adjustment.

    Am I the only one worried that the next ep will be a massive fake-out? It’ll be kind of stupid if they kill of Esther after only 2 eps. Besides, as the Original Witch, she’s a beast. I’d like to see anyone try and take her on. And they’re not going to kill off the Original Family(they might kill Finn/Kol permanently but the rest are fine). They’re not going to kill anyone else. So what’s going to happen? My money’s on fake-out(sadly).

    I think its safe to assume that, at some point before the series ends(a long long way away hopefully), Elena will become a vampire(most likely against her will). In my mind’s eye, I can just picture this scene where Klaus, Damon and Stefan burst into a room and Katherine, Tatia and Elena all turn around with their hips cocked and fully vamp faces on and say “Hello boys”. ROFLMAO So James Bond. And then each of them have to fight one of the doppelgangers and they have no idea which one they’re fighting. Why they  would be fighting, I have no idea but the thought just makes me giggle with glee. I know it may never happen but a guy can dream, right? SOOOOOO COOOOOOOL!!!!!

  • http://twitter.com/RachelgurlFL Rachel Gay

    why does it say unable to load at this time?

  • trel

    Seeing Diana “free” is awesome she’s always so in control of every situation she represses her inner teenager so when she gets the chance to let loose i love to see it.

    Magic differences, well no show has the same magical/supernatural lore from as far back as the 80s movie Teen Witch up until Charmed, True Blood, and even The Vampire Diaries magic is relative to the practioners environment and level of knowledge. Also, aside Charmed and The Craft you never see magic worked as a coven like you do in The Secret Circle; everyone had individual powers and could cast on their own and the Circle in the show needs each other to work their magic unlike in the book where there is no “binding” of collective power.  Its quite a hinderence having to rely on someone else to use your own gifts.

    I dont feel Melissa is addicted at all.. I completely understand how she feels.  I lost my fiance last june and just the notion of having a moment of release is intoxicating.  Its easy to get lost in the need and want to be “free”.  I feel like if Melissa , Diana and Faye get into a normal teenage routine she will be able to have that release and not be so drawn to trying any and everything to make the pain go away.

    there really isnt a dynamic to the circle anymore its 3(melissa fay diana) on 2(adam cassie) on 1(jake) and it is soooo realisitic.  They are maturing which is great because u see it physically now from the new direction the wadrobe and make up department is taking and emotionally they are all stronger.  Yes they still but heads but they are more cohesive than they have ever been at the moment.  I dont take issue with the fact that they arent practicing anymore…no one is making potions and no one is studying the book of shadows and with the threat of the demons , the witch hunters, the parents, john blackwell and the elders looming over their heads they are not prepared for anything.  This is why i think Cassie has really pushed Diana out of the leader role because no one is acting as concerned about the danger theyre in except for her and jake.  and everyone is looking to Cassie to use her solo dark magic to save them instead of  acknowledging that they are alll stronger as a circle and that combined with cassies dark magic makes them practically invincible.

    Adam is annoying…Period. He’s so emotional that he’s going to be the potentional downfall/weak link of the circle every time.  He’s so invested in his love for Cassie now  that he leaves himself open to danger.  adam in the book is much more like jake as far as strength but has the emotional solidity that diana has…I cant wait to see if they develop the magical connection that they have sort of like Phoebe and Coupe from Charmed how phoebe could be transported to him with just her love, in the book Adam could always find Cassie when she really needed him. 

    the medalillon… Ok if you follow magical lore…magic isnt a tangible thing, you  have to channel it whether its through your body, or through a talisman like the medallion or a wand like in harry potter.  Without a means of channeling the magic is just floating in the air.  Yes the physical “containment” unit is gone but that power hasnt been destroyed  no power can technically be destroyed its a part of nature.

    Faye doesnt want Lee lets just get that out of the way.  Faye has never loved anyone except for Jake, theres a reason why shes only ever slept with him theres a reason why shes never even dated anyone other than him, they are too good together for them not to get together and yes they have a toxic give and take relationship Like Dawn and Charles except Jake is as much as in control and manipulative as Faye is.

    I laughed so hard about this I was like ok have all of the parents just disappeared.  Clearly the children are the focus but come on Jane has been m.i.a. for weeks no, they are practically writing her off the show, we havent had contact with another elder since Diana’s grandmother, and the only living parents of the children  have mysteriously disappeared off the show.  This is very much like every other teen drama like Who is paying these bills, where are you getting money, um why havent child protective services been called yet lol.

    Cassie has gotten so much more control over her magic.  She flung Jake across that pew with barely a glance at him.  apart of me thinks she could have drawn out the spirits of that witch coven that were in adam without making a grand scene by destroying the medallion.

    Blackwell…ok this is the thing i love about the show…its sooo different from the books but it doesnt disappoint you because the storylines are no where near parallel to each other, its almost like a grand recollection from  the twins in the book. but i digress Blackwell , i hope he’s awesome as EVILLLL as he was in the books he was one of my favorite character the duality of john blackwell is awesome…thre always a notion that anyone truly evil can not love and any form of “love” they profess to feel is perverted and thats is john blackwell through and through… A master manipulator playing chess with the hearts and souls of the circle. 

    Im loving the Show guys keep up the awwwwwwwwwesome work

  • http://twitter.com/HP4eva121995 Luna Lovegood

    Great episode! I’m so happy there’s a GOOD Vampire Diaries and Secret Circle podcast out there. I tried a few others but this is definitely the best. Thanks guys!

  • Emily Z.

    Hey you read my Jeremy comment!!! That made my day!  Also, great episode :)  I can’t wait for tonight!

  • http://twitter.com/purplehrdwonder Caitlin Kelly

    Hey ladies, just a suggestion. For those of us who skip the Secret Circle portion of the podcast, could you leave a note about where the listener feedback begins like you do for the Secret Circle portion of the show? That’d be fab.

    On the subject of the dancing: Those sequences feel *so* Jane Austen to me. And considering how symbolic the dancing is in those novels, it’s rather fascinating to think about in terms of TVD and the character dynamics. Klaus, however, is no Mr. Darcy ;)