Secret Diaries Chat
Episode #12 – Departing Family

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by Jen Lamoureux
@jenlam26

Posted on 11:12 am,
May 21, 2012

This is our season finale discussion for The Vampire Diaries, and unfortunately the series finale for The Secret Circle. In this show we cover a lot of what happened in both finales and what we think will happen next.

The Secret Circle discussion starts at 35:00, and the Listener Feedback section starts at 1.08:00.

For The Vampire Diaries we discuss:

- Alaric’s good-bye, again
- Bonnie putting Klaus’ soul intoTyler’s body, what does it mean for Caroline
- Elena’s non choice of Stefan, Damon’s real role in her life
- Bonnie’s choice to save Klaus
- The flashbacks and what point they served
- Who will be the new big bad
- Elena’s Transition and what it means for the future, is there a loop hole?
- Predictions for season 4

In The Secret Circle section we discuss:

- Who has grown the most over the season
- When did we realize John Blackwell was truly evil
- Charles’ future
- The other Balcoin children
- What we would have hoped for next season
- The future of the series right now (petitions etc)

Listener Feedback:

- Concerns about Elena transitioning early
- Alaric’s final departure
- Angry caps of rage at the CW for canceling TSC
- How ratings are actually tracked for shows and the effects of that

We conclude the show with what will happen with the podcast now that The Secret Circle is no longer and discuss another option for a podcast that we’ve been thinking about!

This episode's hosts: Selina Wilken, Laura Bryne-Cristiano, Jen Lamoureux, Sonya Faria.

Lauren

I am really hoping that the new podcast you might be making is about Once Upon A Time. Sounds like it from the clues you gave. It would be great to hear your insights about it.
- Theaterboy1
  
  I second this! I have been hoping for a Once Upon A Time podcast on this website for awhile now! That and maybe Revenge if and when Hypable begins covering it.
  - Lauren
    
    That would be great too!
    Some of the best parts of hypable are all of the new podcasts they produce! Im sure they could do justice to OUAT and Revenge too
    - Jen_Lamoureux
      
      I LOVE Revenge!!! It is such a unique take on getting even. I also am a huge fan of OUAT.
      - http://twitter.com/rmdez rebekah
        
        I love OUAT too!
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100003217053155 Liliana Baptista

But when Damon compulses Elena, he tells her to be happy or something like that. So everything that Elena does from that point forward, is towards her happiness. And she choses Stephan…
- http://hypable.com Selina
  
  Maybe that’s the problem. Elena keeps saying that she SHOULD love the one who “makes her glad to be alive,” but it seems like she’s stumbling over her choice so much, perhaps because it’s not the choice she would have made if she was allowed (as in, not compelled to choose what was best for her) to go with the dangerous, all-consuming love she has for Damon. Hmmmmm.
  - Dlmarvin05
    
    plus Elena is going to remember everything she’s been compelled to do so…ya.
http://twitter.com/Super_Lulu1 Lupita

So I was thinking that maybe Klaus’ body didnt burn up all the way because he’s a Hybrid. He’s stronger than the other originals right?

I’m super happy that the podcast will continue. It could still be The Secret Diaries chat if you guys did a review of the books in each episode like the mugglecasters do with the books (Chapter by Chapter) There are 4 Books in The Secret Circle series & I think a new one just came out.

I also like the possibility of a Once Upon A Time or Revenge Podcast.
http://twitter.com/EmilGirl21 Emily

This was a great podcast. I am excited to find out how Elena will deal with her transformation. Although, I have found Elena annoying because of her not deciding between the two brothers Elena broke my heart this episode and I really felt for her. I think the car flashback scenes were well done and I cried. I cried and I don’t particularly like Elena so that was pretty phenomenal. I thought that Elena was going to pick Stefan like she always does and her choosing Damon doesn’t ever seem to be on the horizon. I would love to see her with Damon though and I hope the writers go into that next season but I don’t hold out much hope. I also really hope we see Katherine again or maybe we can see Elena and her bond. I don’t see how that will happen but it would be fun to watch.

One idea for continuing on with secret circle is to talk about the books and do chapter analysis and comparisons with the show. You guys can talk about why the writers decided to go into different directions in the show. You guys can also do this with the Vampire diary books. Perhaps it can be done after you guys talk about the show so that people who haven’t read the books yet and don’t want to be spoiled can stop the podcast. I think that could be fun. Also I would love to know more about this gay character on the secret circle. I identify as bisexual and seeing more diverse representation on sexual orientation would have made the show even more interesting (as long as the character was as complex as the other characters on the show were). I also wonder if there is a ship name for Faye and Melissa because I ship them more than I ever did Cassie and Adam or even Dianna and Adam. Adam didn’t deserve Dianna. It still annoys me when I think of how he made goo goo eyes at Cassie while with Dianna.
http://twitter.com/rmdez rebekah

Ok I know I’m really really late commenting here but because of school I just caught up on the last four episodes of TVD. And I just have to say that Jen you rock girl! I pretty much agree with everything you say on most episodes but especially on this episode! And Selina you too! And everyone is great on the podcast too! but I agree with what you two say the most.
I really did enjoy the finale. Seeing glimpses from Elena’s past pre-vampires really brings things full circle. Seems like most shows are doing that lately, ending much the same way they started. So here’s just a few quick things.

First thing, I share in the dislike of Bonnie. Before seeing the last episode as I was catching up I thought to myself Bonnie is so annoying but if she turned bad that would be so great for her character! I really hope she’s headed in a much darker and more questionable direction. I was hating her for that stunt she pulled at the end putting Klaus’ conscious in Tyler’s body. I’m such a Tyler/Caroline shipper but I loved that I hated her for a more justifiable reason than just that she’s annoying. I don’t want to just hate her I want to love to hate her and her becoming a villain would do just that!

As far as ships go I love Tyler/Caroline. Maybe even more than my love for Stelena. I would love to see Caroline get her own spin off show with Tyler and Klaus. lol And I hate the idea of Klaus/Caroline. I love her and Tyler together so much so her and Klaus better not end up together! As far as other ships go I’ve never been much of a Delena shipper. I don’t hate it and don’t mind it being explored but in the end it just doesn’t feel right however this finale really has me questioning all of that. ugh! The fact that she did meet Damon first is really going to muck things up for next season. ugh these writers really know how to get to me. lol

Everything leading up to Elena’s death was just so good! Damon’s reaction to Alaric dying showed his true feelings for Elena. However I don’t know how I feel about Elena turning. It’s an interesting ending but it feels rushed, too soon to play this card. I expected them play this card on their very last ever season and break away from paralleling the Twilight movies and considering how much Elena doesn’t want to become a vampire(which she will eventually have to become regardless). They are obviously paralleling the movies seeing as this is where the last Twilight movie left off. Not too thrilled about that. I’m not a Twilight hater but I want to see TVD really leave any parallels of Twilight behind. The show doesn’t need Twilight. It’s so good on it’s own. :/ so no points to the writers for that one. sorry. ;)

Alaric leaving was so heartbreaking. When he appeared to Jeremy was just so sad but so good! It’s a nice send off for Alaric/Matthew Davis for sure. This show has seen so many good people go. I hated seeing aunt Jenna go, Lexi (she could have her own spin off show too) and now Alaric. They were all such good actors and I think that’s what I hate most. Characters like Alaric could only go so far so I guess what I really hate more is seeing such good actors leave such a great show. I wish none of them would never have to leave! :(

Nonetheless great podcast guys! And all that hinting about another podcast sounds like an OUAT podcast! All I have to say is IT’S ABOUT TIME HYPABLE!!!! lol I love that show too!
Shoo

What happened to this podcast? I used to look forward to every episode but you guys just stopped making them. You said you would continue during the summer hiatus but it’s been so quiet. When are you going to start podcasting again? TVD is out now, so there shouldn’t be any excuses.

Secret Diaries Chat Episode #12 – Departing Family

Secret Diaries Chat
Episode #12 – Departing Family