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May 9, 2013

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The guys of Glee Chat hold it down as they rehash last week’s latest episode of Glee, “Wonder-ful!”

In this shorter than usual, but just as awesome episode of Glee Chat, John and Mitch get together (not in person this time) to rehash Glee 4×21 “Wonder-ful.” Here’s what’s coming in this episode:

- We make the official announcement that Glee Warbler Curt Mega will join us on episode 62, a live Google Hangout!
- The music at the end of the season is kind of boring to us
- There’s a very noticeable lack of Finn
- Are we going to see more Katey Sagal?
- We discuss our emotions about Artie heading to New York City. Can he thrive in NYC?
- We’re obsessed with how Burt handled Blaine’s proposal idea
- Is Glee setting Jake up to be the male lead in season 5?
- We compare and relate Degrassi and One Tree Hill to Glee…again!
- The guys react to Cassie’s story arc wrapping up and how it made us feel
- The Mercedes story line was a bit awkward..and where was Sam?!
- Check out Curt Mega’s Buffering Series on YouTube ahead of episode 62!

RSVP to tonight’s Google Hangout following the season finale of Glee!

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This episode's hosts: John Thrasher and Mitchel Clow

  • http://www.facebook.com/jenny.stiles Jenny Stiles

    I think it was so funny how you thought New York city is a unfriendly place for the disabled. As a disabled person I have found the more urbanized the place the easier to get around. As a dare go somewhere and ask for the handi abled elevator or route. On that note there is really no such place that is disabled friendly. Doors that aren’t automatic, tables and counters that aren’t low enough (going to Starbucks can be trying, but they luckily have plenty of people willing to help). On the case of public transportation they have to accommodate for the disabled by law. They have ramps and wheelchair friendly taxis you just don’t notice when your able bodied. On the train and on the subway you put your breaks on and if they have the necessary straps they lock them into place, same on the bus. Also you would be surprised at the amount of elevators you’ve never seen, hint, we take the VIP entrance to everything (the back).

    Personally I would love to see Artie living on his own it is not impossible for the disabled to live on their own and have boring normal lives. One of my mentors is blind, so is her husband and they just had a baby and they are doing perfectly fine on their own without anyone to “take care” of them.

    • Marie

      I’m not disabled, but I would’ve guessed urban areas would be more disabled-friendly than suburban areas since there’s bigger populations, therefore more diversity, therefore a higher demand for ramps, elevators, etc. There’s probably still struggles, of course, but it’s the opposite of what I would guess.

    • http://hypable.com John Thrasher

      Hi Jenny! I am not handicapped and do not rely on handicapable means while I commute all over NYC on a daily basis, so I’m sorry if my assessment wasn’t 100% accurate of how you may perceive it. What I said on the show was FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I notice that some subway stops don’t have elevators, most stores seem too small to guide a wheelchair through, and overall people seem less forgiving for those with handicaps. I hope you weren’t offended by my perspective, but that is just what I see with my own two eyes and it’s not a direct reflection of how a handicapped person would get around.

  • Paula

    You guys sounded so bored during this podcast.

    Also, neurotypical was totally the wrong word in describing Artie. That term is used when you’re describing mental conditions (Downes Syndrome), not physical disabilities.

    I was kind of offended when John said fans were overreacting about the wedding stuff. We’re passionate! We’re interested. We care. If we think its a dumb plot line, we should be able to vocalize it.

    I really wish Natalie or Jess had been on this episode. I feel like they’re the ones that have really intense, interesting opinions.

    The reason people are shocked when Glee does things likes school shootings is because they struggle with doing serious things well.

    Sorry if I’m coming off rude, but recently I don’t even see where you guys are coming from about things anymore, and some things you’ve guys have said have been kind of offensive (like some of the things with Cory in rehab). I’m just disappointed, I guess.

    • http://hypable.com John Thrasher

      When I said neurotypical it was about the majority of people in NYC who don’t rely on handicapped access to get around. Thanks for all the negativity. Why even listen if it’s just a list of things you don’t like?

      • Paula

        Well, up until the past couple episodes, I really enjoyed listening to you guys. There were discussions I hadn’t been getting elsewhere, and you guys went in-depth about some cool topics. I don’t feel like that’s really happened recently, so it’s been kind of disappointing. I probably will stop listening now, so no worries.

        • http://hypable.com John Thrasher

          And will that be Paula or Marie who stops listening? :)

          • Marie

            You want me to say I’m Paula? Why yes, I am. Was the passive aggressive comment you gave me at all necessary? No.

            Look, I was rude. I apologize for that. But as a staff member, I expect criticism to be taken appropriately, even if I was out of line (and I’ve seen some awful commenters on here). I really wasn’t trying to be mean. I was trying to voice my feelings on the podcast. You can think about my thoughts, respond politely to my comments, or ignore them. It’s really irrelevant to me at this point. But snarkiness reflects poorly on Hypable staff. I’ve seen some other staff members get into mean arguments with commenters, it’s not an an appealing thing, and it’s a problem on this website.

            Even though I should’ve phrased my opinions more kindly, I stand by my opinions, and I hope in the future there can be less of this kind of fighting amongst commenters and staff members.

          • Guest

            John dealt with that comment very poorly. As someone who is a denizen of the internet and social media, he should know that criticism happens ALL the time, and that, as a content creator, he should be open to it. Marie had excellent points; you two did sound bored, and I honestly am seeing the quality of the show decline because it seems that SOME of the hosts are less interested and engaged. There also seems to be laziness in terms of editing; we don’t need to hear technical issues. While I appreciate that editing is very time consuming it just comes off as unprofessional.

            I really think that now would be a great time to re-evaluate the show. Fans of Andrew’s podcasts in the past know that shows like Mugglecast are great when they switch up the hosts and introduce new ones. It invigorates the life of the show and it seems like that is what Glee Chat needs. There are PLENTY of people who would be capable and willing to join the panel, so why not open up applications over the summer? While the group you have on now is wonderful, there are just times where episodes will get repetitive, and there doesn’t seem to be that same chemistry and charm that Glee Chat used to have.

            That being said, am I going to stop listening? Of course not, I’m a loyal fan, and love to listen to discussion, however it’s incredibly disheartening to hear the main host be so ungrateful for very valid criticism. Just because he found it offensive does NOT mean that he had to reply, nor that he should’ve exposed someone’s privacy — it was Marie’s choice to remain anonymous, and that should be respected. Criticism is just a part of life John, if you’re in the public eye you need to deal with it in a way that doesn’t alienate you from your fans.

      • Paula

        Also, I’m glad you’re dedicating time and effort into the show. I’m glad people enjoy you guys. I wasn’t trying to personally attack anyone or anything. I’ve just felt something has been off recently, and I haven’t enjoyed you guys as much as I used to.

        On Cory: the thing about you guys thinking he should wait to go to rehab was offensive. His health should be number 1 over our entertainment.

        Also, I feel like you are attacking me for criticizing, and you’re acting unprofessional so yes, I’m done listening to you guys. It was nice until recently. Bye.

  • Emily

    ugh those are samsung galaxy s3 phones, not htc LOL

  • Emily

    i think they all switch to those samsung phones because AT&T is trying to promote samsung phones really hard. If you see the glee ps video on gleeonfox on youtube, you’ll see that they use that phone now, iPhones are no longer ‘cool’ for them LOL

  • Kevin

    What happened to Glee Chat, the discussions, in depths talk about the show instead of barely skimming it. Have you thought about at least watching the episode again so you have it all fresh in your mind?

    I think that if you guys want to be on for another two years, you need either a few new voices or to change things up so it doesn’t sound like two or three people hating on everything.

    • Paula

      Or two people just loving everything…

    • http://hypable.com John Thrasher

      Oh, the irony!

    • http://twitter.com/StarkidSims Simone

      The thing with podcasts is it isn’t about not wanting to have someone on, it can be absolutely impossible to get people on pending time zones and available time. Podcasters who also write for Hypable along with a regular job literally have two jobs to juggle, not counting their podcast/s. Then you have to account for anybody studying, anybody travelling or anyone just plain unavailable. That can make it hard to find time to sit down and watch the episode at all let alone re-watch and THEN record. At the end of the day podcasters are human and no matter how much they like a show there’ll be things they dislike or hosts that aren’t 100% available, and if they forced positive opinions it wouldn’t be a good show. Glee Chat is far from completely negative every episode, and you have to expect a 50/50 chance of opinions being completely positive or negative if there are only two hosts recording an ep. If you don’t like an opinion you can you could just post one of your own over here, you won’t get your head bit off for it and you may even sway them your way and spark a more positive opinion on the subject in the next episode. Sorry for the rant, I don’t know everything (or for that matter that much at all possibly) about professionalism and working with a large audience but this is just my take on the matter. Lastly.. “Nitwit! Blubber! Oddment! Tweak!”

  • http://twitter.com/Hmarjus2 Martrel A. Howard

    I found it totally insensitive about what ya’ll said about Artie. First of all being disabled in New York has nothing to do with why Artie is going there. His dream isnt New York his dream is FILM and New York is the best place for him to go to school. If he applied to a school in new york he obviously did research on how handicap accessible the school and dorms are. Disabled people take care of themselves everyday why would Artie be any different?

    Stevie Wonder is a musical LEGEND and ICON who is still LIVING btw. R&B, Soul, & pop he is one of the greats to come out of the Motown era. This episode was so disrespectful. You put all of this time and money into these other tribute episodes and Stevie was just thrown together all haphazardly. The song choices were totally wrong and they all sounded horrible aside from Superstition.

    I have a problem with most podcasts because there is an overall lack of research. If you’re going to talk about subjects within the show like the music, the original artists, storyline plots. Do you’re research so you know what you’re talking about. Alot of times people say that they need to look stuff up or watch this or read that research this but its always an after thought and no one ever really takes the time to do the research. ever.

    Mercedes was teaching Marley how to control her Breathing and sustain her notes. Shes wasnt teaching her rifts and runs, it was all about bout nurturing your voice to strengthen it. Clearly no one aside from Mercedes, Kurt and Rachel actually treat their voices as instruments / an extension of themselves. The Xtina comment would have been relevant if it had anything at all to do with the episode.

    Also Mercedes situation is widely documented in the music industry. Prime example The Weather Girls who sang It’s Raining Men were treated the same way. They recorded music and record labels used images of other people to market the material because they were overweight. Mariah Carey (in Glitter) even explored the notion of people stealing other peoples voices and using someone else as the marketing. Millie Vanillie is the same situation.

  • http://twitter.com/Dillon_Mays Dillon Mays

    I agree to an extent that Burt was right with his words, but he was also wrong with telling Blaine to pursue Kurt even when his son’s in a relationship.

    Also, why were there no Burt/Kurt scenes. Why did Blaine have to hog them?

    Since we all know why Finn isn’t in these episodes, isn’t it easy to understand why the plot is a bit choppy at last minute work?

    Sam’s moved on. It has been almost a year later. Sam’s been married, loves Brittany, and they just went through the shooting which brought them closer together. He most likely does support Mercedes as a friend, but we never get to see everything.

    Love the Cassie stuff.

    This show is completely different than Degrassi, which is a PSA in every episode with bad acting and plot. Stick to Glee. Not sure about OTH.

  • Nat

    i know negativity seems to be the trend on this comment section and i don’t want to add to it but i would say this, i love listening to glee chat and one not so good episode is not going to make me stop listening. the problem is you guys were overly critical about minor things and missed the point on a few issues. Mitch specifically just kept focusing on the little technical things (that most people don’t care about) instead of looking at the whole thing and the message behind it.
    John and Mitch did not work as well as John and Natalie or John and Jess sorry guys :(

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=646947665 Megan Slife

    I’m gonna be the odd one out here and say I liked the episode.The point of this podcast is to listen to another person’s perspective on Glee. Everybody needs to calm down, it’s their podcast, they can give their opinions.

    • Jeff Dodge

      I think the big problem everyone’s having is they seemed to be in a very crabby mood during the episode, and it continued into what John’s been saying in the comments section. Of course we can all have disagreements or not like something we see on Glee, but it has to do with the way the hosts presented themselves here.

  • Jeff Dodge

    I can’t believe you guys are hatin’ on Stevie Wonder. And Mitch, we’re around the same age, I believe, but being young shouldn’t be an excuse for not knowing older music. Stevie Wonder–everybody knows his catalog, or at least the most well-known songs. Yes, I’ll admit the Kitty performance wasn’t the best, but overall the songs were used extremely well in the episode. If anything, Glee should be doing more iconic songs like this instead of songs by non-singers like Britney Spears.

  • http://twitter.com/TrueKlainer21 Klaine Is On Fire ♥

    I love this podcast! I loved today’s discussion! John and Mitch, you two are amazing! I love hearing what you guys have to say. :) #PissedFromSeeingAllTheRudeComments

  • Jeff Dodge

    “But everyone just loves to hate Glee”–including you two apparently in this episode. Sorry, I just had to say it. :)

  • http://twitter.com/w_lowry Will Lowry

    It is unfortunate to see how John is dealing with these comment very poorly. As someone who is a denizen of the internet and social media, he should know that criticism happens ALL the time, and that, as a content creator, he should be open to it. Marie had excellent points; you two did sound bored, and I honestly am seeing the quality of the show decline because it seems that SOME of the hosts are less interested and engaged. There also seems to be laziness in terms of editing; we don’t need to hear technical issues. While I appreciate that editing is very time consuming it just comes off as unprofessional.

    I really think that now would be a great time to re-evaluate the show. Fans of Andrew’s podcasts in the past know that shows like Mugglecast are great when they switch up the hosts and introduce new ones. It invigorates the life of the show and it seems like that is what Glee Chat needs. There are PLENTY of people who would be capable and willing to join the panel, so why not open up applications over the summer? While the group you have on now is wonderful, there are just times where episodes will get repetitive, and there doesn’t seem to be that same chemistry and charm that Glee Chat used to have.

    That being said, am I going to stop listening? Of course not, I’m a loyal fan, and love to listen to discussion, however it’s incredibly disheartening to hear the main host be so ungrateful for very valid criticism. Just because he found it offensive does NOT mean that he had to reply, nor that he should’ve exposed someone’s privacy — it was Marie’s choice to remain anonymous, and that should be respected. Criticism is just a part of life John, if you’re in the public eye you need to deal with it in a way that doesn’t alienate you from your fans.

  • Francis

    When Glee Chat first started, I remember being slightly annoyed with Natalie because she talked so much. I’m ashamed to admit it but it’s true. Now, I really wish she was on every episode. She has engaging and thoughtful opinions and even when she has something negative to say, she still comes across as interesting and thought-provoking. I rank Jess pretty high up there, too. I think fans of Glee Chat are just a little disappointed with the quality of the show lately. We appreciate you taking time to provide entertainment for us for free but you do ask for our opinions and we’re giving them. I still love you, John (and Mitch) but you do seem bored lately. The podcasts are not as interesting as they used to be. I just don’t feel the passion anymore except from Natalie and Jess.

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