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July 9, 2012

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Glee Chat is back after a short hiatus! This week, Natalie, John and Mitch cover the last two episodes of Oxygen’s The Glee Project, along with the latest Glee news!

  • John explains why there wasn’t a Glee Chat episode last week-he was in a pretty harsh weather system!
  • We begin to talk about The Glee Project 2×04 “Sexuality”, with guest mentor Naya Rivera.
  • Naya made a really odd choice for her winner during the cast’s performance of “I Wanna Sex You Up”. Was Charlie’s beat-boxing really all that sexy?
  • Charlie was making googly eyes at Aylin during his studio session, which really upset the mentors.
  • John was a big fan of the music video for the mashup “Milkshake/Moves Like Jagger”, but Mitch thought it was edited really oddly. What was with that character breaking ending, anyway?
  •  Doing a full 360, Charlie ends up in the bottom three, along with Michael, who had trouble in the studio remembering his lines, and the ever struggling Tyler.
  • Tyler was eliminated, brining an end to his troublesome run.
  • We then delve into episode 2×05 “Adaptability”, where the guest mentor is Kevin McHale, who plays Artie on Glee.
  • Aylin is dubbed winner for this week’s group performance of “You Outta Know”. Oh yeah, and did we mention that everyone had to perform this difficult song all on their own?
  • The music video for this week is Jessie J’s “Pricetag”. We’re surprised that some of the contestants hadn’t ever heard of this song!
  • The music video was perhaps one of the last that would feel like an ensemble piece, according to Mitch’s predictions.
  • The bottom three featured duets this week, with Nellie and Blake on and impressive “Waiting for a Girl Like You”, Ali and Abraham on an odd “Last Friday Night”, and Mario and Charlie singing a bromance-ful “Don’t Let The Sun Go Down on Me”.
  • Although duets were performed in the bottom three, only one person this week was eliminated: Mario. Mitch comments on how he seemed to accept his fate with much more ease this episode.
  • John announces that he will be at the San Diego Comic Con ’12, along with Hypable co-founder Andrew Sims! We discuss briefly how the list of people involved with Glee seems to change depending on which source is referenced.
  • We’ve seen some great entries in our Klaine Christmas deleted scene contest! Results will soon follow!
  • News covers a new character named Cheryl Cole for season 4 of Glee, a book coming out by Glee’s Jenna Ushkowitz, and American Idol contestant Jessica Sanchez being in talks of joining Glee season 4 as a guest star.
  • Natalie and Mitch reference a popular “Avatar: The Last Airbender” meme in context with a story about how all of the original Glee cast members will be on Season 4. Source
  • Hypable is holding a contest for you to potentially win a signed, advanced copy of Chris Colfer’s book “The Land of Stories”, along with a special tote bag! Listen in for more details!
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This episode's hosts: John Thrasher, Natalie Fisher, and Mitchel Clow

  • Dillon Mays

    Love the re-hashing.

    To begin, I think that Nellie will win the Glee Project. She’s improved so much and was able to adapt into many rolls. She also has a great voice and I can see her being an underdog in the choir room.

    Also, bring Puck back so he can work for Beiste. They understand each other.

  • Laura Jones

    aww my guess was Selena too! now i really don’t know…excited for the special guest!

  • Lisa

    Hi! I think that you’ve been getting the name wrong of the Glee Project video director, his name is Erik White. I believe you called him “Kevin” in the latest podcast, and some other name before that….I don’t mean to be critical, and I apologize if I’m wrong.  I Love love love listening to your Glee and Glee Project podcasts! xoxo

  • Lisa

    by the way, John, when you’re in San Diego (my home town) you’ve got to go to La Jolla cove

  • Joey Mangum

    There WAS a mashup in season one of TGP. They mashed up

    “Ice Ice Baby” and “Under Pressure”

  • Merina

    Just finished listening!

    Firstly – Mitch, thank you so much for mentioning my video. I’m dancing around my bedroom like the happiest maniac alive. You made my day, and your comment about my creativity made me want to just hug everyone in sight. Thank you, thank you, thank you a thousand times over!

    Secondly – I give in. I’ve been a high and mighty sceptic about the Glee Project from the beginning, but you guys make it sound so darn good. I’m going to watch an episode and give it a chance…

    P.S. Link to my video in case anyone can’t find it, I know the title’s long and my username can be a pain in the neck:

    • Mitchel Clow

      I’m glad I could make your day that awesome!

  • Glee-HP-DrWho-Fan

     You guys were talking about how it is sort of odd that for the last chance performances, they don’t get to pick their own music. Well, I was thinking about how this gives them a chance to manipulate the situation. At the end of the show, during the credits, it always says something along the lines of “the mentors consider input from Oxygen producers and executives when making decisions.” In episode 4, I thought it was kind of odd that Tyler got eliminated while Michael got to stay, because Tyler wasn’t very good, but Michael completely messed up his lyrics and song. Anyway, they producers have a huge hand in being able to manipulate the situation. They have seen the contestant for a while now, so they have an idea of what songs will work and what songs won’t work for their voices. If there is a contestant that ends up the the bottom three that they want to stay, they can give them a song that will work well for their voice; if they want a contestant eliminated, they can give them a song that doesn’t suit their voice at all. I feel like we have seen this many times in the past 5 episodes. We just have to remember as viewers that we’re seeing what they want us to see, not what’s actually going on, though they’ve done a better job than last season for sure.

    • Mitchel Clow

      I agree with you 1,000%! I’ve always thought that it seemed like sometimes the people in the bottom three weren’t given songs according to what they should be singing for their voice type.

    • Jimmy Rose

      Spot on. Although, I’m not certain that they producers and mentors actually *need* to pick a song that will tank the contestant. Ultimately they can do what they want, and it doesn’t have to be rational. I totally agree with you that the allow us to see what they want, and that can only be a slice of what is actually happening. It’s “reality TV”, and therefore they want to give us a story to anchor us. A lot of the mentor’s comments are completely arbitrary anyway. They frequently extrapolate something that seems pretty insignificant. Either that or they don’t allow us to see enough of the problem. Dani’s early ouster is a good example of this.

  • TheGarBar13

    They seem to really ship Blellie (Blake+Nellie) on the show… I think they would actually make a good couple on Glee. Its kinda upsetting me that both (as of what Ryan has said so far) of them cannot win. That will probably change. This week especially (Fearlessness) they played up a lot of Blellie

    • Mitchel Clow

      I agree, they have seemed to play up a lot of Blellie. I even got a Finchel vibe from them when they were doing their duet in “Adaptability”, “Waiting for a Girl/Boy Like You.”

      Thanks for your feedback GarBar-it’s great to hear from you again!

  • TheGarBar13

    That seemed to come out of nowhere! I love you Charlie<3 Chaylin

    • Mitchel Clow


  • Jimmy Rose

    Natalie, John and Mitch:

    Thanks for a great episode. I have a number of comments on different topics; so, I will put each topic in a separate post to avoid a single lengthy essay.

    Topic 1: Race Tracks

    John, I feel your pain. When my wife and I bought our home, we had no idea that we were located less than 1 mile (4,000 ft as the crow flies) from the Dixie Speedway. For the first several years we simply had to leave on Saturday nights for about five hours starting at 7pm. You’d hear a low humming for 20 minutes and then “Let’s get ready to ruuuuumble!” The crowd would roar, and then there would be nonstop noise for 5 hours. Then we had kids, and they tended to be louder than the Speedway.

    The only benefit to being this close to the Speedway is that we get fireworks throughout the summer when the Speedway is active. However that hardly offsets the pain and agony of the demolition derby that happens once a month. So. Loud.

    • Mitchel Clow

      Thank you for writing these comments all in such a coherent manner! I can’t let you know enough how it makes reading what you have to say so much easier!

      And cute story about the race tracks! Haha I’d go crazy and have to move away from all of that!

  • Jimmy Rose

    Topic 2: Song Selection for The Final Three

    On a few episodes now, John, you’ve brought up the issue of why the three Glee Project contestants selected to give “last chance” performances for Ryan Murphy are given a song rather than choosing a song. I think there are logistical reasons for this: (1) The budget of the show probably allows for only a limited song list from which to choose. You may recall that early seasons of American Idol had much more limited song choices, and it has only been in the last 4 to 5 seasons that major artists have opened up their catalogs (e.g. Lennon/McCarthy). As the budget and popularity of the show grew, so did the ability to pay royalties on an expanded song catalog. (2) Depending upon the actual amount of time in the shooting schedule, the band needs to know what they are going to play, get music, arrange it, and rehearse it. It would be a lot to ask of any band to receive three song choices and then be prepared to play them professionally in 2 hours.

    In my past I was a professional music director, and I casted many shows for college theatre programs and professional community theatre. I tend to view the “last chance” performance as a typical call back audition for a musical. In the initial audition, I would hear solos and monologes from the first group of 5 to 10 people and then make a cut based on basic singing and acting ability. Then they go to choreo. Then the remaining group are further refined by reading scenes. After that I have three groups: cut, cast, and maybe. Based on feedback from the choreographer, we whittle down the “maybe” group, validate the “cast” group and then create a call back list.

    It’s pretty typical in my experience for the directing team to specify scenes and songs from the show during the call back. I’ve never invited a person to a call back and given the instruction to prepare a song other than one I’ve given them. It would serve no purpose.

    I think what’s going on here is that the mentors choose the songs because they want to see something specific; they want to validate a hunch. When you are knowledgeable about music, then a good music director can pick a song that should elicit the emotion, skill, or technique they want to see. If they let the contestant pick a song, it is a toss up as to whether or not the chosen song can serve as a proof mechanism. The contestant will likely choose something they know and perform very well. And, of course, part of this is about putting the contestant on edge and seeing how they handle the stress.

    • Mitchel Clow

      You bring up a lot of interesting points that I didn’t consider, and from an insider’s perspectice. I have to admit that I  never thought about the band preparing for the song in such a short amount of time also.

      I suggest you check out Glee-HP-DrWho-Fan’s comment down below, because they tried to answer a lot of the same questions as you. You both brought up great points!

  • Jimmy Rose

    Topic 3: Tyler

    Personally, I think Tyler is an example of casting for The Glee Project and not for Glee. Ultimately, the best contenders on TGP must be people who could be successful on Glee. It is my firm opinion that all “reality” or “unscripted” contests like TGP, American Idol, and SYTYCD cast in such a way that at least 25% of the finalists are clearly in a lower tier of talent. This makes it easier for the show’s judges to remove the lower percentile, while the remaining more talented contenders have time to grow, perfect their skills, and become what they already are: prime contenders.

    Tyler’s interesting and unusual backstory made him a good character for reality television. But, as I think you all agreed, Ryan hit it on the head by saying Tyler didn’t have enough talent to allow him to stand apart from his backstory. His singing was not as accomplished as the other remaining contestants, he had a lot of trouble dancing, and his acting was also in the lower tier. Personally, I think it was always just a matter of time before he was removed from the competition. Perhaps as things settle out for Tyler in his transformation he will pick up better dancing skills and grow into his new voice. From a casting director’s point of view, though, he was not somebody who was ready to be plucked from that environment and dropped into Glee.

    • Mitchel Clow

      Wow, once again you’re blowing me away with your insightful feedback! I can see how the casting of a reality show would be different than that of an actual scripted show.

      Casting some below the tier of others brings in the potential to not only polish those that are already talented, but also bring upon a great underdog story.

  • Jimmy Rose

    Topic 4: Casting Transparency

    Both of the winners of Season 1 happened to come through industry channels. Larsen and McGinty were both known to Robert Ulrich prior to the casting of The Glee Project. Larsen had auditioned for the role of Sam, and McGinty had already been seen by Ulrich through the MySpace auditions held prior to Season 2. If online sources are correct, they were both asked by Ulrich to be on TGP Season 1.

    The TGP official website reports that Blake and Michael were sourced through industry channels. This makes sense, since they both have very conventional good looks and would photograph extremely well.

    It would be interesting to know how many people were “sourced through industry channels” on both Season 1 and 2 but weeded out before selection of the final 14. If I were a producer on Glee, I would definitely want to stack the deck, so to speak, of the Glee Project to improve the changes of landing someone with the right skills and professional experience. Let’s look at Larsen and McGinty as a baseline – both winners and both sourced through industry channels. McGinty was a member of a professional singing group called Celtic Thunder. So, he has professional singing/performance experience right there. While some do not like his voice, I think that’s more a matter of opinion. To my ear, he is a very good singer and possesses a tone and range that is not present among the other men of Glee. Where McGinty struggles is with his acting, and this is evident in the way the character of Rory was handled on the show. If he is back in Season 4 of Glee, one hopes that he has spent time developing this skill.

    Larsen did some runway work and has a band. Therefore, he has relevant experience in performance and presentation. TGP:1 showed a progression of all of these skills, and it seems like he has acquitted himself quite nicely on Glee. Unlike the character of Rory, Joe Hart was given some depth, some internal conflict, and an actual story arc, whereas McGinty seemed simply to have been plopped in some episodes.

    You guys also commented on how Ryan has often said something to the effect of “I’d like to write a character TO you” rather than “FOR you” which is what I think we expect of a writer. We expect a writer to create a character and then cast someone to play that character. Ryan has said things that make it seem as though he is casting a person to play themselves and then he writes for that situation. I’d have to say that in Larsen and McGinty’s situation, it looks like he did that. The same for Alex Newell. Unfortunately, there wasn’t enough of Lindsey.

    The way I think about it is this: He is using the actor as inspiration for a character, and then he writes the character to play to the strengths of the actor, an actor who may lack the experience and technique to create a character from scratch. Ryan’s approach is probably one that reduces risk for the show because it seeks to exact the minimum effort from the actor to achieve the maximum benefit (he or she essentially plays himself or herself). I think that Alex Newell probably rose above that methodology, and it hit pretty square for Sam Larsen.

    • Mitchel Clow

      I love McGinty’s voice, and it makes me sad to think that others might not love his voice as much as I do. But hey, that’s opinons for ya, I suppose. But I do agree that his acting skills really do need some work, which was reflected by his lack of screen time in season 3.

  • Anya

    Missed you all last week! First off, a very happy birthday to Mitch!!! 
    For the discussion about predicting the winner, I feel like its either going to be Aylin or  Shana, generally they seem very professional and able to perform well everything they are given, plus I think they would fit with the show.  However I would love to see Abraham on Glee or more just what else he has to offer, he seems like a very interesting performer.

  • Alex

    Happy Birthday Late Mitch!!!!!!!!!!! I hope it was great just like you are….

    You had a typo in the show notes Nellie was paired with Blake for the duets not Micheal.

    Hope I helped,


  • CupcakePrincess

    Love your podcast!  But can I just say I’m so over Lily’s Boobie Bump dancing!  Gah! She does it in almost every homework assignment!

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