Secret Diaries Chat
Episode #10 – Do Traitors Go Gentle?

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by Selina Wilken
@SelinaWilken

Posted on 10:13 am,
April 29, 2012

Secret Diaries Chat is back with a special guest host to discuss The Vampire Diaries and The Secret Circle episodes “Do Not Go Gentle” and “Traitor.”

This week’s panel consists of Selina, Laura, Jen and Sarah. And we are joined for the first time by special guest host Roxanne, who you may know from Glee Chat. Will she be the hardcore Stelena shipper we’ve been waiting for? You’ll have to listen to find out!

The Secret Circle discussion starts at 33:10, and the Listener Feedback section starts at 1:02:05. And don’t forget to stick around for the very end, where we share some bloopers!

In The Vampire Diaries discussion, we discuss the big decade ball episode “Do Not Go Gentle.” In the discussion:
- We nit-pick. How hard would it be to move the salt?! Do the characters not watch Supernatural?
- Is Roxanne on Team Damon or Team Stefan?
- We revisit last week’s Damon vs Stefan poll.
- Stefan’s “You have me” line to Elena: does she really?
- We all hate on Bonnie some more.
- Is Alaric sticking around as the Big Bad? Is he an Original? What’s an Ultimate Vampire Hunter? Was Esther really dead? We’re super confused, but luckily Jen has all the answers.
- Roxanne solves the shipping problem… but throws Julie Plec under the rabid fangirl bus in the process.
- Which Salvatore would sacrifice himself, Stefan or Damon? We answer the question with a Lost reference.
- One person who is Team Stefan is Caroline! What’s up with the Carolauler triangle?
- Why can’t Klaus kill Stefan, is he like in love with him or something? (We vote yes.)
- A lot of people didn’t like this episode. We give our opinions.

In the Secret Circle episode this week, we saw some more huge developments. In the “Traitor” discussion:
- Nick is back… or is he?
- …And do we care?
- If Nick can come back, how about the other dead characters?
- Laura had an “unexpected reaction” to this week’s episode… we’re intrigued.
- Do we feel bad for Charles? Should we?
- Diana is the Jiminy Cricket of the Circle. Cassie is Pinocchio.
- Adam/Melissa off on another side quest… and maybe we like them together.
- But how will Melissa react to Nick being back?
- Laura’s theory blows our minds: maybe Adam’s feelings for Cassie aren’t gone!
- Didn’t Adam say that his grandparents were in Florida?
- John Blackwell has manipulated his way into Sarah’s heart.
- The Circle is now more magical, yay!
- Selina wins the award for the Most Obscure Buffy Reference Ever. Seriously, ever.
- We should all make a “Running for Your Life” treadmill mix.
- Submit your suggestions for best one-liners by Faye!

Listener Feedback:
- We convince Roxanne to watch The Secret Circle.
- One listener hated the Alaric twist, another loved it. Should he have just died?
- Is Nick pure demon? And are we even sure he’s the traitor?
- We discuss a listener theory that Diana will succumb to the dark side.
- Bloopers!

Don’t forget to check out Glee Chat with Roxanne, and to follow Secret Diaries Chat @SecretDiariesTV, email secretdiaries@hypable.com, or use the comments below this post to share your thoughts on the show and the podcast!

This episode's hosts: Selina Wilken, Laura Byrne-Cristiano, Jen Lamoreaux, Sarah Maloy, Roxanne Clark

Gary65

Well this is prompt. Happy days :D
Gary65

If you remember what happened to Abby when she turned, then you’ll remember that vampires can’t do magic. That is why Esther needed her body back. To do the spell.

As for the salt, no idea. Esther should just be glad it wasn’t raining lol
- http://wizforum.proboards.com/ Melissa West
  
  I know! When I saw that salt line I turned to my husband and said “Really no one saw someone pouring a huge line of salt around the building? And why don’t they just sweep it away” I mean come on I know it’s a TV show but have a bit more sense then that.
Kelly Barker

I absolutely hate the Alaric twist. He’s my favorite character, and I sobbed until I got it all out of my system, and prepared for him to die. Then he comes back as this evil vamp hunter? I’d rather he be dead than to have to watch my favorite character be like that :(
- http://wizforum.proboards.com/ Melissa West
  
  I’m with you. I thought the ending they had for him was beautiful with everyone there and the candles…then I realized what they were about to do with him there at the end and was so angry. I don’t think I will ever forgive the writers for this one.
Kelly Barker

Oh, and about the salt thing: Were any of the other students at Mystic Falls a little weirded out that there was just a random pile of salt surrounding the school?
- http://wizforum.proboards.com/ Melissa West
  
  I was thinking the same thing and even said that to my husband during the show. :)
http://wizforum.proboards.com/ Melissa West

Loved the show (as usual), but my favorite part was the bloopers at the end. I always enjoy those.
http://www.facebook.com/people/Penni-Fields/1417407565 Penni Fields

You mentioned how Cassie has changed. I think that is what John has been warning her about. John never wanted to do the evil things he may or may not have done, but the dark magic took over all reasoning. I think the same is happening to Cassie and that is why John has tried to protect her from it. He stopped her from killing Ethan after he had stabbed him. Letting her kill him would have been an easy out for him.
Gary65

Nick was alive long before Eben resurrected the demons. It has `nick’s magic that he was using when he spelled Cassie and attacked the Circle.

Also, everyone seems to forget that it was Dawn that killed Faye’s grandpa, not Charles. Charles just hid the body.
Emily Zitterkopf

If Alaric becomes the villain for season 4, I will seriously have to reconsider watching the show. I love Alaric, but it is his time to die from the story line they gave him. They gave him a proper send off, which makes me think he won’t ever be good again, it is like the good part of him died and they all said their good byes.

I am more curious about what is going to happen then excited about what is going to happen. That makes me kind of sad honestly. I think this season just needs to be over so we can move on to a new story line. A season and a half of the same story lines has made it very difficult to continue watching (hence the drop in the ratings)
Theaterboy1

Actually they had a dance before the Fire & Ice one in The Secret Circle…the dance where that guy broke in and was after Cassie and you see the shot of Diana, Faye, and Melissa walking down the hallway with papers flying around. It was in episode 3 called ”Loner”. As for my favorite Faye one-liner…”Oh and I forgot, we have the dark magic super twins on our side.”
Emma Morris

Great Podcast! I love having two of my favorite shows covered together. Is everyone aware of Price Peterson’s weekly photo recaps of both shows? I found him on twitter and now I look forward to his posts almost as much as the shows themselves! He is obviously a huge fan of the shows and I love his sense of humor. If you haven’t seen them yet, check out this link:
http://www.tv.com/news/the-vampire-diaries-flapper-keeper-photo-recap-28500/
and/or follow @pricepeterson:twitter on twitter.
- http://twitter.com/EmilGirl21 Emily
  
  I just checked him out. Omg hilarious. Love him.
http://twitter.com/EmilGirl21 Emily

I legit cried when Alaric was supposed to be killed by Damon. What made me terribly sad was that everyone assumed that Damon would be the one to kill Alaric and how unfair that was. It was really nice hearing Roxanne. I used to listen to hear her on Glee chat and she was just as great on here. I agree with her in that the longer she keeps stringing along Stefan and Damon the more I lose respect (and gain disgust) for her. Diana is my favorite character on SD and her dad who is wonderfully played by Gale Harold is just so great. Even though he has killed a lot of people he is the character that I feel most sympathy for. I dislike Cassie almost as much as I hate Elena for a variety of reasons. I would love to see Adam and Melissa together, but I don’t think they are going to show that. I like the way they have bonded. If Adam uses Melissa to get over or stay away from Cassie I would hate that.

Secret Diaries Chat Episode #10 – Do Traitors Go Gentle?

Secret Diaries Chat
Episode #10 – Do Traitors Go Gentle?