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Star Trek Into Darkness continues to get great reviews, but there’s been some backlash over actress Alice Eve’s underwear scene. Now we have video of an unreleased shower scene with Benedict Cumberbatch that was cut from the final film.

Star Trek fans have been discussing it over the last few days, Alice Eve’s quick underwear scene, and whether it should have been included in the film. The film’s writer even issued an apology to fans, saying, “We also had Kirk shirtless in underpants in both movies, but I do not want to make light of something that some construe as misogynistic. What I’m saying is I hear you, I take responsibility and will be more mindful in the future.”

In an interview with Conan, Star Trek Into Darkness director, J.J. Abrams, discusses the controversial scene with Conan and then reveals that there was actually supposed to be a nude shower scene with Benedict Cumberbatch which they had cut from the final film. Check out the interview below which includes Benedict Cumberbatch in his angry nude shower scene:

Does this change the feelings of any fans that felt Alice Eve’s underwear scene was gratuitous? It would certainly seem to validate the fact that J.J. Abrams did have good intentions when including Alice Eve’s underwear scene in the film, seeing as he intended to draw both demographics into seeing the film by shooting these two scenes.

So, do you think that there would have been similar backlash from fans if this clip had made the final cut of Star Trek Into Darkness? Would Alice Eve’s character’s underwear scene have warranted an apology if Benedict Cumberbatch had been seen in even less clothing? Let us know what you think of the clip below.

  • http://beware-thewhispermen.tumblr.com/ Kyle

    Emotional shower with Benedict Cumberbatch? I’M DOWN.

  • Sarah

    I think that if that scene had made it into the movie, the Cumberbitches would have had a heart attack.

    • IngloriousJaen

      lol as if they are not having one right now.

    • Gary65

      LOL this is precisely the point as to why this whole Alice Eve underwear story is a non-issue. All the guys ogled her when she stripped off and all the girls ogled Chris Pine when he stripped off. The only reason BC’s was cut was cos they already had their naked man ogle time & his was superfluous. Can we all please move on now? JJ Abrams is an equal opportunity stripper of sexy actors.

  • Me

    Does Tumblr know about this yet?

    • Nadeshiko

      They already exploded. The European part of tumblr has yet to see this though.

  • thejirehscope

    *furiously fans self*

  • http://ravenclaw1991.tumblr.com/ ravenclaw1991

    My room just got really hot all of a sudden. I was kind of cold a few minutes ago, but not anymore.

  • Kristi

    I knew there was a reason why Conan is one of my favorite talk show hosts :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/shaz.ron.12 Shaz Ron

    Much as I would have liked to see Benedict Cumberbatch’s shower scene in the movie, I don’t feel that this at all change my feeling that Alice Eve’s underwear scene was gratuitous, unneccessary and totally uncalled for.

    While I don’t think that there would have been similar backlash from fans if this clip had made it into the final cut of Star Trek Into Darkness, I also don’t think Alice Eve’s character’s underwear scene would have warranted less of an apology if Cumberbatch was seen in even less clothing.

    As I already mentioned, while I would have loved to see Cumberbatch’s shower scene in the movie, I think it was a sensible thing that it was cut because just as Alice Eve’s undewear scene, it didn’t really add much to the story other than to show that he is intense even when he is taking a shower.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1045615098 Riana-Tiana Menezes

    Wait, I really don’t get their logic. They think a showing a shirtless guy is the same as showing a shirtless girl? Really?? I see guys practically everyday here In California riding bikes down my street without a shirt on but never will you see a girl riding a bike shirtless, you know why? Because it is indecent. And it is indeed indecent.

    Oh and another thing. If they seriously think that adding a gratuitous “shirtless” scene of a man somehow makes up for adding a gratuitous scene of a girl in her bra and panties then something is seriously wrong.

    • Liderc

      I see women in bras all the time at the beach, it’s called a bikini and they often show a lot more than what was in her scene.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1045615098 Riana-Tiana Menezes

        There’s a huge difference between a beach and a suburb.

        • Liderc

          Do you see men showering with no clothes on in your suburb? That’d be more interesting.

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1045615098 Riana-Tiana Menezes

            I fail to see how that connects with anything I said in my first comment.

    • http://www.facebook.com/shaz.ron.12 Shaz Ron

      I totally agree with your point.

    • http://twitter.com/MowTheFrontLawn Juan Pedia

      I’m struggling to see how your perspective isn’t sexist. You may have to elaborate.

    • http://twitter.com/akacj7 Caroline J.

      not to mention female nudity and objectification is a persistent device used to draw in a male audience that will ultimately make the franchise more money. it’s exploitation and it’s been happening since, like, forever, and i think we’d all like to think that we’re better than that nowadays. we know better.

      • Sarah

        Did you go see Magic Mike? It used male strippers to get women to the theaters. Is that any different than this?

        • Honey

          Did you happen to notice that even in a movie about male strippers, we saw more female nudity?

  • BlueBronze

    By cutting Cumberbatch’s scene out, though, the film makers acknowledged that it was unnecessary. They didn’t realize Eve’s scene was also unnecessary til they were called out on it.

    • http://www.facebook.com/shaz.ron.12 Shaz Ron

      How true. When Josh Horowitz asked writer Damon Lindelof in an e-mail interview about why Alice Eve was in her underwear at one point, he said that he was not telling because “uh… MYSTERY”. But when he was asked about Benedict Cumberbatch’s shower scene that was purportedly cut, he went: “As for the shirtless scene… we scripted it, but I don’t think it ever got shot. You know why? Because getting actors to take their clothes off is DEMEANING AND HORRIBLE”. Sheer double standard don’t you think?

      • Sarah

        You keep citing this interview, which is fine, but you make this “mystery” part of it sound ridiculous. It IS a mystery for why she is taking off her clothes, because it is spoiler. She did it to change into an appropriate outfit for a mission that is vital for the plot. I’m not justifying the underwear scene, but just defending the “mystery” part.

        • http://www.facebook.com/shaz.ron.12 Shaz Ron

          The mystery part of it sounds ridiculous because it is ridiculous. The writer was simply fudging around the issue. I’ve watched the movie, so I know that according to the story she was stripping was because she needed to change into something suitable for a mission, as you say, but nevertheless it was totally unnecessary…couldn’t the scene have just cut to her in her new outfit? Also bearing in mind the interview that I cited was full of major plot spoilers including the real identity of John Harrison, I don’t see why the writer would refer to the reason for her undressing as “mystery” unless he couldn’t think of a credible reason or was fudging around the issue. It was certainly not to spoil the reason given in the movie for her stripping I don’t think.

    • Lyle Weaver

      Cumberbatch’s scene showed him taking a shower. There’s no character development or trait there. Alice Eve’s scene showed that Kirk has playboy characteristics. Whether or not you agree that it’s something they should have shown, they were trying to show something, and that would not be the case with the shower scene.

      • http://twitter.com/conroyheine Carolyn Heine

        I would be really interested in where this scene was supposed to be in the film. Actually, I’m really curious as to how BC’s character would have had an opportunity to take a shower in the first place. Do you have to have a certain level of hygiene to board the Enterprise?

        In all seriousness though, had this clip made into the final cut, I probably would have laughed. When I first saw it, I totally fangirled (guilty!) because I wasn’t in the moment of the film, but it wouldn’t have fit at all with the film. Actually, it’s all over my tumblr dashboard right now and I keep laughing so hard because BC looks like he’s a rotating ballerina from a jewelry box, but he has this really intense look on his face.

        • Kristi

          As much as I personally enjoy this scene, it would have been WAY too out of place. My guess is that it takes place between that shot of him being surrounded by security on the way to the cell and the scene between him and Kirk while he is in there. It kind of explains why he is suddenly wearing a Starfleet sweater in the rest of the cell scenes.

      • BlueBronze

        Kirk was checking out women when they were fully clothed. He got a call from Starfleet in the middle of a sex scene. We get it, he’s a womanizer. There was literally no reason he had to be in the room when Carol is changing.

    • Gary65

      Cumberbatch’s was cut cos they already had their naked man candy quota covered in Chris Pine. This has nothing to do with mysoginy.

      • BlueBronze

        I never said it was mysogyny, just unnecessary.

  • Asia A Ahmed

    I agree that is deffo a ‘shower of evil’ haha.

  • Alive285

    If you took offense to Alice Eve’s underwear scene, you probably shouldn’t watch the first minute or two of “Phase One” – the post-Super Bowl episode of J.J.’s old TV series, Alias – either.

    • http://twitter.com/akacj7 Caroline J.

      i love alias, i love JJ, i very much enjoyed Star Trek Into Darkness but YES. you might be saying that sarcastically, but i vividly remember that episode and thinking UGH this is not what i was hoping for from my female role model. too bad she doesn’t really have a choice…

  • allheavens

    I seem to recall Uhura (Zoe Saldana) stripping down to her bra and panties in the first Star Trek reboot. Where was all the concern when the WOC removed her clothes?

    • student

      That scene, for some reason, was just not quite as out of place as this one. I think it was because we had just had the scene with Kirk hooking up with her roommate, and so, her undressing just added to the awkwardness of Kirk hiding behind the bed. Seriously, I usually don’t think twice about scenes like Eve’s, but there was something about its placement in the movie and the atmosphere that just seemed extremely off. I noticed it right there in the theater, and that alone is unusual.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=625092335 Lucy Brook

    I DONT MIND PLS DINT STOP

  • SnatcherGirl

    Okay, just looking at the first couple of most liked comments on this post – They all are swooning in Benedict’s nudeness. Whereas, people are offended by Eve’s scene, in which she’s basically wearing the equivalent of a bathing suite.

    I’m not saying it’s wrong to swoon or not swoon, just make sure that you hold both actors to the same standard. If you’re a girl or guy, and you feel like Eve’s integrity is offended in that scene, stand up for Benedict (and Pine, who’s underwear scenes appeared in both movies) also. If you’re a girl or guy swooning over Benedict or Pine, then maybe accept that some others might be swooning over Eve, and that these actors agreed to be swooned over.

  • aurens66

    so movie did not see that scene of Eve in underwear was gratuitous (it’s hardly a character building scene for Kirk as we see him in bed with two alien girls early on) but they did get that a Cumberbatch shower scene was unnecessary, time to add some women to the writing pool – they would have at least shoehorned in a shower scene for Khan and made add to his characterization.

  • http://twitter.com/walshcaitlin Caitlin Walsh

    Watched the clip, my mom came in to watch the shower scene. Her two cents is that Cumberbatch isn’t that attractive, it’s his voice that is.

  • kburford

    I’m really sad that Abrams’ overall directorial of this movie is being so overshadowed by a 5 second gratuitous clip. I’m a strong independent woman as much as the next one, but come on. The writer apologized, and I think people so passionately against the scene have clearly made their point, let’s move on.

    • http://twitter.com/akacj7 Caroline J.

      i agree it’s unfortunate that its getting overshadowed by this issue, it’s a very good film, but i think it’s still an important issue to talk about. just my two cents.

    • Sarah

      As another strong independant woman, I agree. This was a great movie. Shouldn’t be overshadowed by bandwagon jumpers. Fast and Furious 15 comes out this weekend, I imagine there’s about 10x the objectifying in that.

  • Winkyxx

    I wouldn’t have minded….

  • guest

    Personally, I dont see any need for any partial or full nudity, I can think of very few instances where it is relatable to the plot, and no instances where it cant be taken out without ruining the plot. So, if it is a girl or boy actor, I dont care either way, it doesnt need to be in there.

  • Glaciusx

    FUCK. I’m still not over this being cut! Benedict Cumberbatch is a sex god. UNF!

  • Maya

    The underwear scene still bothers me, because it wasn’t necessary. It completely sexualized Alice Eve. You can show a shot of Kirk sneaking a peak and hear her say “Turn around” without showing her in her underwear. Watching the movie, I was immediately struck by how awkward the shot of her in her underwear is. It’s clearly there as a sexual shot to appeal to a male audience. And Kirk may be in his underwear for maybe five seconds, but Eve’s shot is a full body, long look at her. I am very disappointed with how this movie (and sci-fi as as a genre) treated women.

    • Shannon

      the shot of her was actually 3.7 seconds, it’s been timed and released on twitter.

  • antonia31

    “J.J. Abrams did have good intentions when including Alice Eve’s underwear scene in the film, seeing as he intended to draw both demographics into seeing the film by shooting these two scenes.”

    My only issue here is that on the commentary for the first movie, if I’m remembering correctly, he goes into discussing why Uhura is taking off her clothing, saying that the large majority of Star Trek’s viewership is male. In those two scenes that Conan compared- the Carol one and the one with Kirk in bed with those two girls – the difference is that the Carol one is there to appeal to the male demographic, and the Kirk in bed one, to me at least, did not seem to be in there to appeal to the female demographic. I thought it only set him up as the player, ladies man that he is. Thus, I kind of think JJ Abrams is backpeddling saying he was trying to balance out the nudity. Still love him though.

    Is there anything wrong with appealing to the male demographic with some underwear scenes? Meh, not really. (but maybe I watch too much Game of Thrones). I think the reason this scene is drawing heat is because Carol seemed to be in the movie ONLY for that scene in a lot of ways. They set her up as a brilliant weapons specialist, but I came out feeling a bit like she got the Natalie Portman in Thor treatment.

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  • Samma

    This would have been a nice addition :)

    The only thing that bugged me about the Alice Eve scene was the editing. In my opinion, it was just an awkward scene. She never said anything like “I’m getting changed” or really mentioned why she was stripping down. I wasn’t offended by it at all, bring on the naked, but it was an awkwardly written scene. Again, one ladies opinion.

    I thought the scene in the first one with barely clothed Uhura and Kirk was hilarious, because they were both half-naked but casually fighting. Have naked, but make the scene entertaining for reasons other than naked.

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