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By Momo at 11:45 am, March 29, 2012

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With the recent rumor about the possible next generation of PlayStation, I have come to the conclusion that if many of the mainstream companies that produce games/systems don’t shape up soon, they should just abandon ship.

Let me start by referencing this rumor. I am a hardcore PlayStation girl, always have been. I owned the original PS1, the PS2, and have played the PS3 multiple times. PS1 was all right, not really good or bad; really sleek, easy controller design, though (which has been a pretty stable point for PlayStation). PS2′s were beautiful, introducing backwards compatibility that everyone came to adore, and allowing for games like Kingdom Hearts (1&2), the Jak series, and Ratchet & Clank to come in and steal our hearts. The original PS3 had so much potential, saving the backwards compatibility while allowing Blu-ray, online play, and all new co-op options. Sure, they overheated sometimes, but nothing a good ventilated area couldn’t handle. But the newer, “better” versions? I just don’t know how to feel. On the one hand, they still have Blu-ray, allow for the free online game play, and the games still have gorgeous graphics (hello, Little Big Planet rocks my world); but no backwards compatibility? Yes, free online gameplay; no one told me free came with so much lag and loading time. Sure, everyone’s experience is different; most of the time it isn’t so bad, but still. Now with this rumor, I just feel sick. Why make the mistake of keeping away one of the main things, again, that many fans loved: backwards compatibility. It just seems wrong. I can’t stress it enough. No used games? Are you kidding me? That is going to kill the gaming industry on its own, especially if others follow. I’m sorry, but I love used games because I personally don’t have $60 I can drop every time a game interests me. It’s just not in my pocketbook’s future.

Second up, Microsoft. Most everyone I meet is pro-Xbox; but the Xbox consoles are not without their own set of flaws. The original Xbox was all right, again not good or bad; clunky design, but it ran well with decent graphics, and it was also the first to have a built-in hard disc drive. Pretty impressive. But the Xbox 360 was just ok for me. Graphics-wise, it’s a pretty gorgeous system. Tomb Raider: Underworld made me feel like I was really underwater or in the tropics, Dead Space 1 & 2 scared the shit out of me because the monsters were just that gruesome (in the dark was way worse). But you have to pay for Xbox Live, which, although offers a more stable internet than PlayStation most of the time, is just another thing to pay for. The controllers pretty much follow the original Xbox and are still just as clunky in my hands. The big one: no backwards compatibility with original Xbox games. And, in general, there aren’t many interesting titles that are exclusively for the Xbox 360. Most games nowadays are made for PlayStation, Microsoft, and even Nintendo. So, I honestly haven’t jumped on board that bandwagon just yet.

Finally, Nintendo. This is honestly the only company that gives me hope for the future. It has been a stable, consistent system for many generations. Almost everyone I know owned an NES. Legend of Zelda and Metroid are just as popular and well-known now as they were when they came about; and of course, Mario and Donkey Kong (for which there is no need to elaborate). Then the SNES and the N64 came about, continuing the impressive work. Each system gave new, exciting games, good graphics, and very few drawbacks (sure, you had to blow in the cartridges sometimes, but who didn’t?). The Game Cube was also very impressive, but I think it was the first system that had any real problems (discs not spinning, lid not closing), but those mainly came about from poor ownership. While their “floor” systems, I’ll call them, were taking the world by storm, so were their handheld ones. The Gameboy, Gameboy Color, Gameboy Advance, Nintendo DS, DS-light, and finally the 3DS are all still just as popular and used as ever. Sure, PlayStation has tried (and been semi-successful) with handhelds, but no one played a PSP or PS Vita when they were kids. Nintendo has also managed some backwards compatibility in a fair amount of its systems, even allowing for some of its handle held games to be linked to their “floor” consoles. With good graphics and a healthy respect for the fan base, I feel Nintendo is doing really well, and I only hope that PlayStation (aka Sony as I know some of you will point out) and Microsoft will follow its lead.

  • gcw07

    Sorry, but game consoles aren’t going anywhere. The only thing in danger as far as consoles go are hand held systems and even that is a little iffy. 10 years ago they said PC gaming was going to die off because of consoles. Well that didn’t happen and now it is back better then before. Same thing will happen with consoles. You will have a new generation come out and they will be fine.

    • Dlmarvin05

      So you’re ok with not being able to buy used games and overall quality of the systems declining? The PC is totally different. It is not just a system that can be used for games, it can pretty much do anything. Strictly gaming systems are expanding there uses, but they will always be primarily for gaming. And no where do I say that they will die off; I am simply implying that they need to shape up or there will be some serious back-lask. Used games are a HUGE part of the industry right now, something they can not afford to get rid of. The fact that PlayStation is even considering it is a new low

      • gcw07

        Yes, I have no problems with not being able to buy used games. First it will not happen with the next generation, but will with the one after that for one reason, it will eventually go all digital. As soon as the systems go all digital, the used game market is completely dead. The next generation is going to be a transition generation between physical discs and digital.

        As far as backwards compatibility goes, the next PlayStation will probably not be backwards compatible because it isn’t going to use a Cell processor. Without a cell processor in the box, it just can’t do that feature.

        And it is just your opinion that the quality of the systems are declining. To many, including myself, the systems have just got better over the years.

        • Dlmarvin05

          Yes. it is my opinion. Hence why it is called an “opinion” article. Not to get defensive, but you aren’t being very constructive. And you should read the rumor article that is linked. It explains my thing with the backwards compatibility. If they want to go all digital, that’s fine and their choice. But they need to make the Ps3 games available for download on any future system. Because it’s not fair or right to expect people to buy each system for a specific set of games. It’s ridiculous and people just don’t have that kind of money lying around. Good Ps3′s still run from $200-$350. So that is a problem to me.

          • gcw07

            Yes, I’ve read all the so called rumors on the next generation and most of them are complete BS. Most of it isn’t true and won’t happen this next generation, but honestly I can’t really blame them if they did want to kill the used game market. They make no money off of that market, so why would they care to support it.

            They don’t need to make it backwards compatible. In fact they should stop because all it does is cause additional problems with the systems. If you want to play an older game, you get that older system out and plug it into your TV. I still play my NES games and SNES games that way from time to time.

          • Dlmarvin05

            They do make money. A lot of it. I’d like to see the numbers that say they don’t. And they should if they want people to play their games in future generations. As mentioned Nintendo has done a brilliant job conserving its work and passing it through the systems. Sony and Microsoft could stand to learn a thing or two from them

          • gcw07

            Publishers do not make money from the sale of used games. After market people like GameStop make the money. The only way a publisher makes money on used games is with the sale of “online” passes or other digital downloads.

          • http://www.facebook.com/david.gurley1 David Gurley

            to @98b6d3a86affabcfa1d0e9132c6aaa78:disqus there is no need to look at sales numbers. Used games make no money for the publisher or the developer. They only get revenue for a new game. Used game retailers do NOT pay out to developers when a used game is sold. 100% of that money stays within the used game retailer.

          • Dlmarvin05

            If the only way for them to make sales on a used game is for themselves to sell a digital copy, then that is all the more reason for them to do so, hence my point

          • http://www.facebook.com/david.gurley1 David Gurley

            You are going to have to clarify your last post, I admit I did not follow. Who is “them” and “themselves” I also do not see what digital copies have to do with profit earnings from used game retailers

          • Dlmarvin05

            “them” (publisher or developer that you mentioned) which associates with the later used “themselves.” And digital copies of older games (aka Ps2 games for example) could be used so they can continue to make profit while offering them on newer systems (via download on the new system itself or whatever)

          • http://www.facebook.com/david.gurley1 David Gurley

            Ah, I understand now. Thanks for clarifying. I agree that it would most likely be a good practice to make available digitally all old games but I contest that most used game sales are made due to the discount rather than the lack of availability. The reason Sony and Xbox want to stop used game sales is because they cut into profit of new games. That cutting of profit is the same reason they have implemented Online Pass codes with new games with the option to purchase said code if the game is bought used. They are trying to incentivize new game purchases as much as possible.

          • http://www.facebook.com/david.gurley1 David Gurley

            Sales numbers indicate that people do in fact have that kind of money lying around. I take a little offense with your notion that this is a moral question of “right” and “fair” to you. I want to know why it is not “fair” or “right” for a company to make a new product that does not include functionality for software from an old product. If you want to play PS3 games, then buy a PS3, thats why it exists. If you wanted to play PS4 games then buy a PS4. There is no moral question here. The next generation is a new product with new capabilities and therefore should not be automatically expected to support older outdated software. Sure, the company can choose to include that support as a bonus but by no means is it a choice of right and wrong or fair and unfair.

            Also an all digital no used games model exists. Its called Steam and they sell PC games. They are doing phenomenally well and are far from “dead.”

          • Dlmarvin05

            I never said anything about if it was fair or right. My point is that with the economy, people *can’t* afford to keep buying the newest this, that, etc. It’s just not possible. So, I’m sorry if it offended you, but it isn’t a question of morality; It’s a stated fact. Yes, people will buy the systems still, but will AS MANY. And that is where they will loose people. The ones who are ok with used games and older systems. Which is most people. And no one seems to notice I give Nintendo major Kudos b/c they focus too much on the negatives I have against Sony and Microsofts current state. And in all honesty, the PC gaming world is almost completely not associated from this one

          • http://www.facebook.com/david.gurley1 David Gurley

            it appears you said those exact words “Because it’s not fair or right to expect people to buy each system for a specific set of games.”

          • http://www.facebook.com/david.gurley1 David Gurley

            Why exactly is the PC gaming market not associated? Also I know that you give Nintendo big kudos but the market has not. Sure they had a big boom with the Wii. But that was not sustainable. Software sales and now console sales have fallen off a cliff. Whereas PS3 and Xbox sales have continued steady. You mention that part of the Nintendo model you like is the portables. Many in the industry agree that dedicated handhelds are on the way out. Smartphones and Tablets with increasing power and support are likely going to push portables out of the market. 

          • Dlmarvin05

            Word context. PlayStation has not been as stable as you may think, not with its network hack and crash about a year ago. Many people ran to Microsoft as a result. The Nintendo 3DS had record sales and while I can see how tablets would show a decline in this market, it would also show a decline in Sony’s handheld market as well. PC’s are not associated because they are so much more than a gaming platform and have too many other features to properly compare sale rates and/or popularity

          • http://www.facebook.com/david.gurley1 David Gurley

            I totally agree with you on Playstation’s portable market. It as well as Nintendo’s is likely to go away eventually. I only pointed that fact out because the article mentioned Nintendo’s portables as a reason for their continued longevity which may not even be a factor in the coming years. PCs should not be compared to consoles is a correct statement. But game sales can be compared to console game sales. The fact that full priced AAA gaming can thrive in a market with no physical media or ability to buy used is indicative that the model can work. 

            Not to continue a clearly dead end point of contention but the quote I was referencing was not out of context, unless you could show me exactly how I used the context incorrectly. 

  • http://twitter.com/andrewgoldie16 andrew

    I agree with @gcw07:disqus as long as there are gamers out there gaming will be around. However, if there are no new ideas for games then it might lose popularity but big gaming names like Call of Duty and Battlefield etc will keep gaming alive 

    • Dlmarvin05

      I feel like people are taking the title too literally. Titles are just to get people’s attention to read the article (though I am glad it is getting feedback so quickly). I agree with you; there really need to be some new titles out. New console rumors (from both Sony and Microsoft) have just been debilitating. 

  • http://twitter.com/JonComeau Jon Comeau

    I agree with a few of the points you have, but I don’t think the end of the gaming industry is near.

    Also, unless they got rid of it in the new slim model, the 360 has always been able t play original 360 games. Not all of them are compatible, but you can play most of them on the 360.

    • Dlmarvin05

      not from anything I’ve ever tried; my brother owns one and trust me, we’ve tried. 

      • http://twitter.com/JonComeau Jon Comeau

        On the slim, or the older versions?

        Because I own original xbox games since I used to have an original, and all of them play on my 360 Elite.

        • Dlmarvin05

          An older version, he hasn’t been able to afford an Elite. If they do have backwards compatibility great, but Microsoft sure isn’t using that as a huge selling point and they should

          • http://twitter.com/JonComeau Jon Comeau

            Kind of have to disagree. It’s great to have backwards compatibility, which I’m glad it has, but they really don’t need to advertise it. A simple google search can easily tell someone both that it has it, and which games you can play using it. If someone buys a product expecting ti to do something without looking into it first, then it’s their issue.

            From a business point of view, even though backwards compatibility is what a lot of people like in a system, the company’s products are going to go very far if they continue to focus on selling the fact that their product can do it.

            And at least Microsoft continues to keep it as a feature. Whereas it’s a mistake that Sony made taking it out of their newer models.

  • http://twitter.com/JonComeau Jon Comeau

    and by original 360 games, I mean original xbox >_> (Posting this in class, so i’m only partially paying attention to my typing lol.

  • http://twitter.com/SlySound Brett H

    By and large, I disagree with this article. 

    • Dlmarvin05

      Reasons? Thoughts? Saying you disagree is great, but doesn’t start conversation

      • http://twitter.com/SlySound Brett H

        Don’t always have time for one

  • Liderc

    People will always play video games, it’s cheap entertainment.  

    • Dlmarvin05

      “cheap?” $200-$350 for a decent Ps3 is not cheap T.T

      • Liderc

        But how long do you keep a Ps3?  5-7 years?  Spread that out over 60 months and you have 5 dollars a month.  

        Have to look at it in the long run.  Costs nearly 20 dollars to see a movie by yourself, if I do that once a week that’s 80 dollars a month.  $960 a year if a see a movie once a week.  

        Now think about how many times you would play the PS3 or Xbox a week, a lot more than once a week for 90 minutes. 

  • Nickkh

     No used games, ok I’m fine with that, except for one problem. If a game is tied to a system does this mean I can no longer bring over copies of my games to a friend’s house to play? Because if I can’t, that’s just stupid.

    • CliveRogan

       I doubt it as that is technically illegal.  It is with films anyway, I assume the same is true of games.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Joey-Mangum/1820064015 Joey Mangum

      That’s exactly what it means!

  • http://twitter.com/greeneggsplusam Sam

    Not to mention EVERYTHING has to be connected to the internet now.

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