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If you’re in the U.S. the political buzz for next year’s big elections has already begun. After Kelly Clarkson’s recent Twitter debacle endorsing Ron Paul, I had two distinct points-of-view about it all.

If you’re not sure what the Kelly Clarkson debacle was exactly, let me run it by you real quickly. Kelly publicly endorsed Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul on her Twitter. Twitter freaks out and is like “WTF Kelly?” Kelly says sorry for offending anyone, but it’s my personal stance. Blake Shelton defends her by saying he’ll “throat punch” someone for her.

Should Kelly have publicly endorsed a presidential candidate thus politically labeling her for the rest of her life? I, personally, hold 2 equal minds about this and would like to address Kelly in the personal letter to her I’ve written below:

Dear Kel-Kel,

Hey girl! Let’s just get something out of the way first. I really don’t like it when you sing “ain’t it somethin’ y’all?” Say it in person because you’re a ‘total dork’ but let’s not do that in future songs.

Anywho, I just wanted to tell you that I have two very distinct thoughts about your recent endorsement of presidential candidate Ron Paul. The first is that I think it’s great that you are bringing political awareness to your followers and fans. A girl you might know named Lady Gaga does this and has cultivated a following the likes of which we haven’t seen since Madonna. You have many young fans who adore you and bringing current world issues to their attention with the influence that you have is one gift that not many people are lucky enough to receive in their lifetimes. However, Kel-Kel. You DO realize that 99.999% of your fan base is either women, homosexual men, their hags, or straight guys majoring in vocal performance, right? In other words, yay for having an opinion but do realize that the people that buy your songs and albums may be turned off by your personal belief in wanting them or their loved ones to be considered ‘less than’ you. As a diva it’s your responsibility to take gays, hags and voice majors under your wing and protect them from the perils of life. Because frankly, that’s what your music has done for a lot of them! So don’t go bananas and ‘throat punch’ someone when your loyal gay, hag, vocal major fans are scratching their heads wondering what’s up.

Don’t be the clueless pop star who just loves to sing and has no idea who her fans are. You’re not Britney Spears!

Good luck on your Stronger Tour, I hope I get a chance to come see you!

Best,
John T.

  • Anonymous

    If she had publically endoresed a democrat would this article have been written?

    • http://hypable.com John Thrasher

      It’s less about who she endorsed and more about letting her know who her fans are and that most of them will find this annoying. So, no, probably not because her fans wouldn’t have had the same reaction.

      • Anonymous

        Why do people feel that being a republican is a crime!? I am a republican but I am all for gay rights. I am a republican For other reasons, regarding what the country spends it’s money on. Political views just like religious views should not matter. Christians take so much crap from pop culture , it’s getting rediculous.

        • Astraea

          Ron Paul, like many of the Republican candidates, is not for gay rights and has made explicitly derogatory comments about LGBT people, particularly gay men, in the past. Look at your candidates’ platforms: I don’t believe any of them are pro-gay-rights. You say that political views, like religious views, shouldn’t matter, but many of the Republican candidates’ platforms are explicitly centered on bringing their version of Christianity into government.

          By the way, I have no idea why you brought Christianity into this in the first place: neither the editorial nor anyone else has mentioned it, and, as you pointed out, you can be a Christian and support gay rights. 

          • Anonymous

            Conservatives are usually Christian and the reason republicans don’t support gays is because of the bible. It is all interelated which is why I brought it up. Here’s the deal this a a fandom sight not a sight for opinions. First it was all the people posting there opinions on Harry Potter and the Oscars not hypables getting political. I love this sight but opinion peices don’t belong on it!!

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Erika-Johnson/619556596 Erika Johnson

            Why don’t opinion pieces belong on it?

          • Anonymous

            That first part is not even close to being true.

          • Misswriter18

            Opinion pieces about entertainment belong here, but not ones about politics.

            Those opinion articles about Harry Potter winning/not winning Oscars were quite funny… the debate was hilarious…. :P

      • Fravit

        What. You can’t support one pop star’s free speech and not another’s, just because they believe in something you don’t. This goes against everything free speech is about. Even as a democrat, I have no problem with her stance. This is hypocrisy at it’s finest. 
        Please keep this stuff off Hypable. I realize you don’t need my viewership and I’m sure you have plenty, but I’m just about done with this site and it’s massive slants. There is absolutely no credibility to the articles you write – this site is starting to read like a blog run by a bunch of high schoolers, dressed up to look like a legitimate news site.

        • Misswriter18

          I agree that a lot of Kelly’s fans might actually be Republican like her, or indifferent to politics… so sure, maybe that one fact is incorrect, but does that mean that every other article on this site lacks credibility?

          • Fravit

            No, it doesn’t mean that at all. There are many other reasons it lacks credibility and this just happens to be one that is particularly irksome.

          • Misswriter18

            I think that perhaps you should state your reasons why it lacks credibility instead of just throwing that phrase out there as if everyone knows exactly what you’re talking about.

      • Jennifer Scheidegger

        ‘It’s less about who she endorsed and more about letting her know who her fans are and that most of them will find this annoying. ‘               John, your statement here is a complete lie. If Kelly would have endorsed Obama, you would not have written this letter. The only reason you wrote it and posted it is because it was Ron Paul and not someone you support. 

    • Lorena

      No. It would definitely not have been written.

  • Kat

    hmmm. If every other actor/singer can endorse a presidential candidate why can’t Kelly? Or is the real issue who she is endorsing? I think that it is insane that people can’t be a republican without defending themselves. I am a republican but not a conservative. Therefore I support gay marriage and all that jazz. Who says Kelly doesn’t feel the same way? She might not like Obama and thats okay too. He hasn’t done a bang up job so why not give some one else a try? This letter is a little ridiculous because everyone has a right to support whoever they want even if it isn’t popular.

    • http://hypable.com John Thrasher

      “If every other actor/singer can endorse a presidential candidate why can’t Kelly? Or is the real issue who she is endorsing?”

      See the line where I say “The first is that I think it’s great that you are bringing political awareness to your followers and fans.”

      • Kat

        I don’t think Kelly needs a letter in order to know she works in an industry that is very diverse and liberal. Also, its a little condescending in the way that (I would think) she knows who her fans are. Besides, are people really not going to buy an album or song that they like of hers just b/c she likes Ron Paul?

    • Mdrich12

      I think the point to this is that many of Kelly’s fans are people that wouldn’t like Ron Paul, so publicly endorsing him may not have been the best idea from a career standpoint.

      • http://hypable.com John Thrasher

        Yes, and that I hope she isn’t confused when her fans are wondering, “WTF?”

        • Ilikecheesegirl

          I don’t know a single one of her fans that now wonders “WTF”

  • David

    Ron Paul 2012!

  • Kat

    hmmm. If every other actor/singer can endorse a candidate why can’t Kelly? Or is the real issue who she is endorsing? I think its insane that people have to defend being a republican. I’m a republican but not a conservative. Therefore I support gay marriage and all that jazz. Who says Kelly doesn’t feel the same way. If she doesn’t support Obama thats okay and she is free to express her opinion. And if anyone doesn’t know Obama has a 47% approval rating, so he isn’t at the top of everyones list for the upcoming election. Just because being a Republican isn’t the most popular platform in Hollywood doesn’t mean that it is the wrong one. Sorry, but this letter is a little ridiculous John…

    • http://hypable.com John Thrasher

      You must have missed the part where I praised her for taking a public political stance.

      • Jennifer Scheidegger

        Yes, but then you told her that she took the wrong one. You are essentially telling her that she can take a political stance, as long as  it’s the one you agree with. Where is the tolerance in that? 

        • katie

          Nowhere did I see him bring his political stance into this. He was talking about Kelly’s fans, not himself at all.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Erika-Johnson/619556596 Erika Johnson

          We don’t have to be tolerant of a candidate who is intolerant

          • Jennifer Scheidegger

            So basically you are saying ‘we will be tolerant of you, as long as your views match ours’ The entire point of tolerance is accepting that people have views/ideas/lifestyles that you don’t agree with. How can you teach people tolerance by being intolerant of them?  John is saying that Kelly can be political, just as long as she supports a candidate that he agrees with. He didn’t say it was his political view, but any person who knows how to read can deduce that he is a democrat. 

          • katie

            I know how to read, but I’m careful with assumptions. He might be a Democrat, but that is NOT his point. He doesn’t care that he is a Democrat–he doesn’t even care whether Kelly’s fans might be Democrats.
            He cares that Kelly’s fans might be hurt by her endorsement of a candidate who wants to label them as second-class citizens, refusing them the right of marriage.

          • katie

            As for the tolerance issue:
            If people don’t agree with gay marriage, by all means, they can avoid having a gay marriage.
            However, under no circumstances should they be allowed to refuse a gay couple that right.
            When intolerant people affect the lives of others, I am no longer tolerant of them. I will be tolerant so long as their intolerance only affects themselves and not others.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Erika-Johnson/619556596 Erika Johnson

            Jennifer, I can except Ron Paul’s view that Chicken Alfredo is better than Fettucini Alfredo (even though I think he is wrong) but I will not except him banning Fettucini Alfredo. 

          • Jennifer Scheidegger

            I think it’s all a bit hypocritical  that everyone is going nuts on Paul (who will never be elected president, so I don’t understand why everyone here in up in arms about him.) for not supporting gay marriage when Obama has done absolutely nothing to help gays win equal rights concerning marriage. He won’t touch this issue with a 10-foot pole. Instead of writing nasty opinion letters to pop stars about their political beliefs (which I am sure Kelly loves all her gay fans), maybe John and everyone else here worried about Ron Paul’s views on gays need to spend their time writing letters to people like Obama and their state senators and reps in Washington, people who actually have the power to do something about it. Bullying a pop star about her endorsement of a candidate is un-democratic, un-american, childish, and it proves that you all are a bunch of bullies. If you are so worried about gay rights,  get on the president you voted for to do something about it. 

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Erika-Johnson/619556596 Erika Johnson

            1.It’s not bullying to criticize an adult living in the public eye
            2. It’s not un-american to practice your freedom of speech/press

            Were not saying Kelly isn’t allowed to endorse a homophobic candidate but we have the right to call her out on it. The point of the article was to point out that her actions might alienate some of her fans. I read some of your other posts and you made a good point when you said that her political beliefs might not have an effect on her fan base but I think that her endorsement would be harder for a gay person to overlook.

            While your right that Obama hasn’t done anything about gay marriage, he has repealed “don’t ask, don’t tell” which  is a step in the right direction.

          • PotionWillow207

            @facebook-619556596:disqus - Obama did not repeal DADT. The Democrats in Congress did that, led by Sen. Joe Lieberman. Obama just had to approve it and then, along with two other political officials, provide certification that the repeal wouldn’t adversely affect the military in any way.

          • PotionWillow207

            @facebook-619556596:disqus - Also, I’ve done some research on your claims of Ron Paul stance on DADT and gay marriage. Ron Paul did vote for the installation of DADT in 1993, but as I’ve said before in these comments people can change their minds. He voted in favor of the repeal and said he did so based on information gathered from his constituants. Ron Paul also is NOT in favor of a ban on gay marriage. He has gone on the record in many interviews and debates that while he personally does not believe in gay marriage he does not think the federal government has the right to define what marriage should or should not be. In fact, I could not find a single news article or debate transcript that says Ron Paul is for a gay marriage ban. Every single one said that he is, in fact, the only Republican candidate who is against a federal gay marriage ban.

            Next time, before you start spouting off and putting labels on people, you might want to do some research and make sure your information is correct.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Erika-Johnson/619556596 Erika Johnson

            I actually did not know that he voted that way I was basing my assumption that he supported DADT when he said it was a “decent policy” but you have made good arguments in past about flip flopping politicians. 
             The leaving it the states argument is a copout (in which Obama is guilty of) because you get to look like a shining conservative who supports states rights without actually doing anything.  
            I’m not saying Obama is this shining beacon of democratic goodness — he’s just the lesser of two evils. JFK was not a brilliant proponent of civil rights but he was all African Americans had at the time.
            In the past when something good/bad happened under a presidents administration citizens would attribute it to that president. 
            So why shouldn’t I attribute the repeal of DADT to the Obama administration. 

    • dan

      Additionally, Obama (I am using his name only because he is the president  and will be the democrat nominee) has never said publicly that he supports gay marriage…. but people don’t like to talk about that because he’s a democrat.

  • http://twitter.com/smaloy Sarah Maloy

    I for one respect Kelly even more after this. She is making her beliefs public and being herself, supporting who she wants to support. I love that she isn’t changing or hiding what she believes just to please an audience. Whether I agree with her opinions or not, I would rather see a musician take a stand than stay silent for fear of offending and losing fans.

    • Anonymous

      Well put. If her view depended on her fans views, shed be an Ultimate SellOut!

    • Anonymous

      Sarah, I totally agree with you.  I’m not a Kelly Clarkson fan and I would never vote for Ron Paul, but I believe she has every right to endorse him.  I don’t think any singer, actor, or whatever should feel forced to hide their political opinions because they might lose some fans.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1776780125 Brett Holden

    I don’t think the issue is that Ron Paul is Republican but that he is such a poor candidate for President. That much is indisputable. 

    Really though, John was trying to say that she has now labelled herself politically. In many ways, this will change people’s perception of her. If she supports a certain candidate or political party, then she can/will be associated with various views and policies. Sure other celebrities do it. It isn’t always career savvy. 

    • Jennifer Scheidegger

      I am a conservative, and my opinion about celebrities doesn’t change when I learn they are liberal/democratic, so your argument doesn’t really hold water. I don’t boycott Matt Damon films because he is a democrat, I don’t refuse to listen to Kanye West because he hates George Bush.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1776780125 Brett Holden

        Wow, it doesn’t change YOUR opinion thus my correct assertion “doesn’t hold water”. Makes sense. 

        • Jennifer Scheidegger

          Well, it does make sense.  I am just one example of many people who don’t change their minds about people just because I disagree with their political views. My best friends all are much more liberal than I am, and yet, we find a way to respect and like each other. Just because someone supports so-and-so, doesn’t mean you can’t enjoy their work as an entertainer. 

          • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1776780125 Brett Holden

            Yes, you may be an example of one group. However, there are still other people who fall in the group I discussed. 

  • tf

    Ew, who got politics and opinions all over my fandom news? This doesn’t belong here.

    • Anonymous

      Agreed!!

    • http://twitter.com/Tarah94 Tarah

      I think you missed the point of this article… 

      • tf

        I think I’ve missed the point of Hypable if this is the type of article that belongs here. I come here for news on movies and shows I follow. An article reporting about Kelly Clarkson’s tweet and the outrage that followed would belong here. An open letter to “republican” Kelly Clarkson telling her that it’s a bad idea to be a republican does not.

        • http://hypable.com/author/jeremy-baril/ Jeremy Baril

          It is for this reason that “my feed” is the first option viewers are given. You can weed out what you’d rather not read. 

          • Anonymous

            My feed doesn’t work on the mobile version!!!

          • Jennifer Scheidegger

            is there an option in the feed to block any postings that are political? I have not updated my feed option in a few months, but there was not a political option when I set mine up. Please add that if you plan to continue with the politics. 

          • Misswriter18

            I’d hope that we don’t have to deal with anymore political news. I mean, I don’t mind reading about who celebs are supporting, but if it turns into more than just that sort of political news, I think you guys will have to stop calling this an entertainment site. Really, I think this site should remain dedicated to entertainment and leave politics to the news sources that focus on such issues.

          • Tom

            I haven’t set up a “my feed” because I enjoy reading articles from tonnes of different fandoms so there wouldn’t be much point. But, I don’t come here to read about politics and I do not want to start seeing heated political comments all over the site. If this becomes a regular occurrence, I won’t be coming here very often.

          • http://www.rebellionradiopodcast.com Hurley

            I think their point is that there is no ‘Politics’ option on the My Feed to weed it out.

          • http://hypable.com/author/jeremy-baril/ Jeremy Baril

            This is true. We have a new policy for this now, anyway.

    • katie

      To answer your question, Kelly Clarkson got her political opinion in your fandom news. John reported, with an additional commentary on how her fans might react.

  • http://www.facebook.com/rkturner Russell Turner

    Ron Paul is an idiot, along with the other circus members who are running for the republican nomination. Thank you John for bringing this to my attention. 

    • Jennifer Scheidegger

      ah, democratic civility and tolerance at it’s finest. 

      • katie

        At its finest: immediate assumptions and labelling. Republicans could still be disappointed by the poor selection of candidates.

      • http://www.facebook.com/rkturner Russell Turner

        I’m just telling expressing my opinion based on how i feel on what the GOP candidates believe in, which is all garbage (you should research them). I suppose the truth hurts for you… 

        • Jennifer Scheidegger

          1. Just because you don’t agree with them,  their opinions and beliefs have no value to you and you label them as garbage. 
          2. I have researched the candidates quite more throughly than the average American, and if you would to, you would find quite a difference of opinion on important matters between them. But thank you for assuming that I had not, it only serves to highlight the fact that you do, in fact, look down upon those who dare oppose your beliefs. 

          • http://www.facebook.com/rkturner Russell Turner

            Someone’s been watching Fox News… 

          • Jennifer Scheidegger

            Actually, I am more likely to read the NYT and HuffPo than turn on Fox News (seriously, check my browser history), but thank you for making yet another assumption about me. 

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Erika-Johnson/619556596 Erika Johnson

        Jennifer, refusing to accept bigotry doesn’t make us intolerant.

        • Jennifer Scheidegger

          you can’t teach tolerance by being intolerant. 

  • Clive

    I don’t know why but I read this whole thing having mistaken Ron Paul for Ron Jeremy.  That would have made things interesting. 

    Anyway, once I found out who he was and finished musing as to whether someone nearing their eighties should risk going up for such a stressful job, it occured to me that none of this matters.  Everyone knows pretty much everyone elses political views, I have no idea why people think that this shouldn’t stretch to celebrities.  Yeah, it might make you change your opinions of them, but they don’t exist to cater to your image of them, they are human beings, and thus have feelings and opinions of their own.

    Do you think she seriously cares if some people stop buying her records because she’s a republican?  If someone stopped talking to you because of your views, would you then decide to change your views, or keep them hidden?  I don’t know what Ron Paul stands for, but I’m not about to crucify Kelly Clarkson or anyone else for suporting him.

    Also it’s quite unfair to label someone for life based on their political views at one time of their lives, people change their views all the time as their lives and priorities change.  By next year Clarkson could be a hardened Democrat.

  • Jennifer Scheidegger

    Funny how when celebrities endorse Democrats, no one bats an eye. Shame on you, Hypable for allowing this article to be published. If you are going to get into politics, I expect that you will write a letter to the next celebrity who endorses a Democratic candidate telling them why they are wrong. I do not support Ron Paul (views on terrorism/ foreign relations are suicidal to America). I am a conservative who supports gay rights. If people want to boycott Kelly because of her political views, great. But if Hypable is going to start taking political sides you can bet I will be boycotting Hypable. You want to talk politics, take it to your personal blog or start a different site.

    • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1683360003 Paige Barton

      agree 100000000000%

    • Anonymous

      Thank you!!

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Erika-Johnson/619556596 Erika Johnson

        Yeah shame on you hypable for having a problem with a racist and homophobic candidate!

        • PotionWillow207

          What are you basing this on? Things that were written 20 years ago that may or may not have been written by Ron Paul, and that haven’t been proven yet one way or the other. Even if he did write those things, 20 years is a long time and it is possible to change your opinion. In general, I don’t support Ron Paul although I do like a few of his ideas. However, it is not fair to base your opinion of someone on something they are accused of having said decades ago.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Erika-Johnson/619556596 Erika Johnson

            The homophobia claim I’m basing on his stance on “don’t ask, don’t tell” and gay marriage. According to Libertarian ideology the government should not infringe on individual rights, well unless those rights include getting gay married or having control of my uterus.  
             One important Conservative principle is personal responsibility. So even though Ron Paul only published those newsletters, by his one values, he is responsible for their content. There was such an abundance of bigoted rhetoric that I find it hard to believe it slipped under his radar. Additionally I don’t think there should be a statute of limitations on being racist.

            My next point is going to be hard sell mainly because it’s going to piss a lot of people off. Conservative ideology in general is racist. The famous term “pulling yourself up by your bootstraps” completely ignores white, male, straight, able-bodied, and christian privilege. 

          • PotionWillow207

            You’re right, it’s going to piss people off because that statement in and of itself is prejudiced and racist. Why do you think that “white, male, straight, able-bodied, and christian” people are the only ones who can “pull themselves up by [their] bootstraps?” Are you saying that it’s not possible for anyone who doesn’t fit that description to be successful on their own merit? That is completely unfair, not to mention completely false.

            And as I said in my previous post, those comments were not written by Ron Paul and being the publisher does NOT mean that he shares those beliefs. Most, if not all, publications regularly publish or post articles that do not support the personal beliefs of their staff. Again, as I previously stated, they were published 20 years ago. Are you the same person you were 20 years ago? And his support of don’t ask, don’t tell or gay marriage does not make him a homophobe. It makes him a politician who is aware of what his potential voters want. Yes, he does take some flack for it from the liberal side, but since he is running as a conservative it makes sense that his “views” would be what conservative people expect from their candidates. It does not mean that he necessarily feels that way personally.

          • Ilikecheesegirl

            You are aware that Ron Paul voted FOR the repeal of Don’t-Ask-Don’t-Tell, correct?

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Erika-Johnson/619556596 Erika Johnson

            I’m not saying its impossible for people with less privilege to make something of themselves but they make something of themselves in spite of their challenges. These challenges that certain people don’t seem to think exists.
            My statement was not racist (pro tip – it’s not racist to point out racism) it was factualy true.

             Yes, not supporting civil rights for gay people makes you homophobic! Duh! Another pro tip- those people you wanted segregation in the 1960s were racist. These people who don’t want gay people to severe openly in the military or get married are homophobic!

          • PotionWillow207

            Actually you did say that. You said “pulling yourself up by your bootstraps ignores….(insert your list here).” Perhaps I am mistaken, but that seems to read as that option is only available to those types of people. Seeing as one of those characteristics was white, that would make it a racist comment. If that is not what you meant then you should have reworded your sentence to make it more clear. And are you saying that anyone who doesn’t fit into your list is automatically underprivileged? That’s preposterous! There are SO many white people who are underprivileged; and males; and straight people; and able-bodied; and Christians. In fact, most people in this country are underprivileged.

            And what world do you live in that politicians actually personally believe everything that they claim to support or not support? I want to live there. A place where politicians are truthful?!? Everything that comes out of ALL of their mouths, no matter who they are or what party they are, is a half-truth at best, and nine times out of ten it’s an outright lie. You must be very young because your statements scream inexperience with life in general.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Erika-Johnson/619556596 Erika Johnson

            You are mistaken and you really need to some research on privilege. What I’m saying is America is not a post racial, post patriarchy society. If you do not fit a certain criteria life is harder for you. Now I am aware that life is hard on everyone but if you are white male you are more likely to get hired and less likely to be turned down for a mortgage (thats privilege) than your black counterparts. If you have penis you will get payed more than me because I own a Vagina(thats privilege). My gay best friend can’t get married and (assuming you have a penis) we could get married tomorrow even though we would make a terrible couple (thats privilege). Try to run for president as an atheist (you could try but you will fail) (thats another privilege).
            That list goes on and on. I will repeat myself, pointing out an unjust system IS not racist but constantly denying its existence as you have is. 

        • Jennifer Scheidegger

          I think you missed the part where I said that I support gay rights and that I do not support Ron Paul. I cannot say this enough times: I (and many other ‘republicans’)  fully support gay rights. I am shaming Hypable for taking political sides. They would never, ever publish an article titled ‘ An open letter to Democrat _______ (insert name of celebrity).  One of the many reasons I enjoy Hypable is that there is no politics involved, and  they will alienate me and a lot of people for becoming political, as is pretty evident from the comments and the distribution of ‘likes.’ If Kelly wants to endorse a candidate that isn’t what some people were hoping for, debate it somewhere else. There are countless places online and in real life where one can go for politics. Politics is omnipresent, and there are few places to truly escape it. This is one of them. I am saying that as a user and fan of this site from day one  that I am extremely disappointed that they have decided to turn this site into a one-sided political bashing zone. You want Hypable politics? Start a separate site and keep it out of my fandom news. 

    • Anonymous

      I wish I could like this comment a million times.

  • Tom

    No more political articles please Hypable.

    • Anonymous

      BOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

      All everyone ever does is bitch about how crappy their life is. But, when it comes to informing yourself about your country and maybe doing something or actually considering an issue, you just want it ditched.

      I think Hypable needs a political correspondent. Its interesting and you should be informed about your own country. If you don’t like it that much, de-click in your viewed fandom list. At least if it has its own fandom you can avoid it(although if you do avoid it, I think you’re part of the problem. The vast majority of the public being uninformed is how we get into these messes in the first place).

      • Guest

        there are lots of places to discuss this…it doesn’t have to permeate every facet or our lives, nor every website on the internet.

        • Anonymous

          There are also lots of places to cover Potter. Try mugglenet. You’re not making a very good argument for why Hypable can’t cover the news.

          And it doesn’t permeate every facet of our lives. If it did, people might know a thing or two about what’s going on in the world. It wouldn’t surprise me if a massive chunk of young people had never heard of Kim-Jong-Il until he died.

          Hey Andrew, why don’t you get Laura or Elysa to do Political Affairs on Hypable? They were awesome at it on Smart Mouths and everyone loved it then. I miss their Political Bitches segment 

          • Mia

            i was just gonna say that! we need elysa or laura on hypable to bring us some political news. i always understood it best when listening to them! bring ‘em back :) 

          • Anonymous

            I remember the days when I used to listen to podcasts to try and fall asleep and, just as I was nodding off, I’d piss myself laughing at something Matt/Elysa/Laura/Greg said or What the Fuck News or something.

            Has it really only been 2 years since it ended?

          • katie

            Bahaha Gary, me too! I was just listening to the one lonely episode of the LAME factor to fall asleep last night….but then my family probably woke up from my laughter.

          • Clive

            I thought everyone had at least seen Team America.

            Anyway,  while I think everyone should have an interest in politics, I’m not sure that Hypable is the best medium for it.  I shudder at the thought of the comments sections and opinion articles around election time, it’s bad enough seeing the flame wars around fictional film series without seeing the ones dealing with things that actually directly affect their lives.

          • Anonymous

            Its called Youtube. Lots of it there. And you’re right. It does get ugly. But most people are reasonably nice online and it seems a little unfair to deny them coverage, simply because of a bunch of trolls that would bite your head off, whether it be in the name of politics, The Dark Knight or anything else.

          • Guest

            First, what does this have to do with Harry Potter?  This site is an aggregate of news for lots of fandoms, not just Potter.  You’re not making a good argument as to why Hypable should cover the news, other than that you just like it that way.

            My point is that this seems out of character for a fansite like Hypable, which has established itself as an entertainment and fandom news site.  I don’t need people like you telling me this site needs to cover news because I don’t know enough about what’s going on in the world.  There are plenty of resources to learn about politics and current events, and I do keep informed–I just don’t think a site that markets itself as a fandom website needs to cover something like that.

          • Misswriter18

            Thank you!!!!!!!!!!

          • Anonymous

            I used Potter as an example. It was the first thing that came to my head. Stop nitpicking. 

            Hypable should cover it cos a lot of people find it interesting and have just as much a right to be catered to as any other fan here(fan is the wrong word for politics but you know what I mean).

            There are plenty of resources online to learn about 30 Rock, American Horror Story, Avatar: Korra, Batman, Best of the Week, Bones, Books, Breaking Bad, Captain America, Castle, Comic-Con ’11, Community, Dexter, Disney, Doctor Who, Fandom Crossover, Fringe, Game Of Thrones, Glee, Grimm, Harry Potter, HIMYM, House, Idol, Mad Men, Man Of Steel, Merlin, Misc, Misfits, Modern Family, Movies, Music, New Girl, Nikita, Once Upon a Time, Oscars ’12, Parks and Recreation, Pretty Little Liars, Psych, Review, Saturday Night Live, Secret Circle, Sherlock, Snow White, Spider-Man, StarKid, Supernatural, Terra Nova, The Avengers, The Big Bang Theory, The Good Wife, The Hobbit, The Hunger Games, The Mortal Instruments, The Office, The Vampire Diaries, The Walking Dead, Torchwood, True Blood, TV, Twilight, Video Games, Weeds, X Factor and X-Men but that doesn’t stop Hypable covering them, does it?

            And I still don’t see what would be wrong with it. Simply remove it form your viewed fandom list and you’ll never know its there. It’ll be like it never existed. What’s the problem?

          • Guest

            So if I like biomechanical engineering, or differential calculus, or ancient civilizations, should there be hypable articles on those subjects as well?

            My point is that if Hypable starts adding sections to its website just because some people find it interesting it will dilute what the site was designed for in the first place.  It would be no different than Huffington Post.  What’s the point of every website being alike?

          • Anonymous

            There’s a big difference between education and political affairs.I’m sure the world of differential calculus is alight with recent developments for Hypable to cover lol

      • Misswriter18

         I’m sorry, but this is a multi-fandom FANSITE. The whole point of it is to help fans of different FANDOMS get news from one place, instead of prowling the internet for individual fansites. Politics should not even be brought into the equation. If we want to learn more about such issues, we can go to FOX, MSNBC or CNN. I don’t come here to get political opinions shoved down my throat.

        • Anonymous

          Shoved down your throat? You’re the one who clicked on the article in the first place. It was fairly clear from the title what it was about. No one was shoving anything down your throat. You’d swear John had held a gun to your head and forced you to read it.

          FOX News? You’re joking, right?

          Also none of these sites cater to what young people think about news and what interests them and what they think. There could be no better place for it than Hypable, as its viewers are mostly young people.

          There are young people who are interested in politics. Is there some reason we shouldn’t be catered to just as much as the Twihards, Potterheads etc? I see no reason why Hypable shouldn’t cover current affairs. It’d certainly serve more purpose than the Comic Con ’11 fandom page(which is still there for I reasons I don’t really understand).

          • Misswriter18

             I was strictly talking about you wanting a section for political news. THAT is what I meant by it being “shoved down my throat.” Perhaps you didn’t understand that. I clicked on it because I wanted to know what the heck he was wanting to say to Kelly (since I enjoy her music, but didn’t know what she had said about that candidate).

            Quite frankly, I am mentioning major news sources, and unfortunately, FOX is one of them. I don’t prefer FOX, by the way. But I know many people who do.

            Now, in the end, it shouldn’t matter whether a news source caters to younger people or older. It is about the issues. This site wasn’t started for the point of politics. It was about entertainment. Even Andrew keeps political talk to a minimum on the HYPE podcast.

            If you want a site about politics that caters to young adults, nothing is stopping you from creating your own. I’d support that endeavor. But, it doesn’t really have a place on Hypable, in my opinion. I come here for entertainment news, like everyone else here… There are other places to learn about current affairs.

          • Anonymous

            It still isn’t being shoved down your throat. If they did create a section for politics, simply de-click it in your fandom viewer list and it won’t appear in your feed. That’s like saying Twilight news is being shoved down your throat, simply cos its there.

            And, once you realized it was a political article, you could simply have just gone back to the homepage and ignored it. Still not shoved down your throat.And if half the cast of Smart Mouths hadn’t needed to stop podcasting, it would still be going and Hype wouldn’t exist. Andrew keeps politics to a minimum on Hype on Elysa and Laura aren’t in the show and they don’t have anyone who really knows how to talk about it properly. Politics and World Affairs was a large and very interesting topic that appeared in just about every Smart Mouths ep, along with entertainment and everything else. You should give Smart Mouths a listen. It really was awesome.

            There is something stopping me from starting my own website. Its called college and a job. I don’t have the time needed to run a website. If I get some free time, I might just ask the Hypable peeps if I can do some political coverage on Hypable myself. But right now, I’m too busy.

            And if I, or anyone else, do start covering it on Hypable, you can simple de-click it on your viewed fandom list and you’ll never hear from me again. Its that simple.

          • Misswriter18

            Also, there might be some people that weren’t finished with a season of a show when Comic Con ’11 happened, so they didn’t read the articles, but they can once they finish. Keeping old articles is a good thing… 

        • http://twitter.com/IAmMotastic Mo Hogan

          What if people are FANS of politics? Why is it such a bad thing to give them some of the things they like? 
          You don’t have to read it. At all. You can ignore it completely. Nothing would be “shoved down your throat”.
          I’m just curious why it’s such a bad thing.

          • Misswriter18

            The point is: this is an entertainment site. There are MANY places to read about news and current affairs, but hypable should remain about entertainment.

          • Misswriter18

            And sure, I know there are many sites dedicated to the individual fandoms covered here that all of us can go to. But, what was the appeal of hypable to begin with? We can come to one place to find news about every fandom we want. There isn’t a site that covers everything the way hypable does.

            But, MANY news sites do this same thing with their political and social news. Why come to an entertainment site for political news when you can go to an acclaimed news source to get the breaking news? No one has really made a good argument for why hypable, an entertainment site, should add politics to its coverage. 

          • Tom

            “Hypable is a new entertainment site for fans, by fans that promises up-to-the-minute and complete coverage of the fandoms we cover.”

            I come here for that. To explore entertainment news of fandoms, written by fans. I can get my politics fix in an abundance of other places. In fact, I sometimes get rather tired of politics, so sites like this are nice to get away from it for a while.

      • http://twitter.com/IAmMotastic Mo Hogan

        I agree, there’s no reason why Hypable shouldn’t have a part of the site for politics, especially since the celebrities we fawn over all the time have their own political stances and opinions. 

        And I really don’t understand that you don’t HAVE to read everything that’s on this site. I have never looked at anything Twilight related (and I like Twilight a little bit, I just don’t care for reading news about it) or any of the movie stuff, really. All you have to do if you don’t want to read about politics is NOT LOOK AT IT. Plain and simple.

        It’s not like having a Politics section is going to disrupt the amount of other material, and I’m sure it won’t be “shoved down your throat” like some people think.

        Anyway, I agree and find nothing wrong with having a political section here. 

        • Misswriter18

          To Mo Hogan and Gary65:

          I think you both are missing the point of the website.  In the “About Us” section, it says: “Welcome to Hypable.com: a new approach to online entertainment news.” Notice that it says entertainment news. The whole point of this website is to talk about entertainment news. If we start throwing politics into the equation, it is nothing more than the average news site, which there are tons of already. The great thing about hypable is that we can escape the average news resources and normal fansites (which cater to one fandom) by coming to one place for the entertaiment news we want.

          If I want news about politics, I go to my newspaper or an online news source. For my entertainment news, I don’t go to the those places. I only come here.

          I still have yet to see a reason why hypable needs a political section, and how it belongs on a site strictly dedicated to entertaiment.

          • Anonymous

            You realize “entertainment” is a vastly subjective concept? Personally, I am not in the least bit entertained by half the fandoms here. However, I do enjoy political discussion and learning about what’s going  on in the world. and I see no reason why Hypable can’t expand. What would be wrong with cutting out the other online news source altogether and just come to Hypable for everything?

            I never said it NEEDED it. I said it would be nice if it had one and it should have one, as current affairs is a subject just as worthy of coverage as everything else.

            And, as I have said several times, if such a segment were to be created, it could still be a strict entertainment site for YOU by simply removing Politics from your viewed fandoms. Its not rocket science.

          • Ilikecheesegirl

            The point is, Hypable isn’t for politics. Whether you want politics or not, that’s not what this site was created for.

      • Tom

        “Your own country”

        I’m from the UK. America’s not my country. 

        But even if I was American I don’t think I’d need an article on this site to ‘inform myself about my country’.

        I didn’t say this because I’m not interested in politics or I don’t think it’s important. I am interested. And it is important.  

        I just don’t think Hypable is the place for this kind of article or the place for the kind of heated political comments it has caused.

        • Anonymous

          Given the international editorial staff and fanbase of Hypable, I highly doubt they would only cover American news. The whole point of covering world news would be that the news would come from around the world. Granted for most of 2012, it would be American news cos of the upcoming election but you get my point.

          Right cos all of the comment in The Dark Knight Rises articles are so PG and kid-friendly. Gimme a break. Heated comments are on every fandom and they generally only come from a minority of people. Its a little unfair to deny the majority coverage simply cos there are a few trolls in the group.

          • Tom

            For goodness sake, I have no problem with heated comments about fandom issues. 

            BUT I just don’t want to see heated POLITICAL comments. It’s a personal opinion. I just don’t want politics on Hypable. I have it everywhere else I look, sometimes it’s nice to have a place where politics isn’t an issue. It gets tiresome.

          • Anonymous

            BUT THIS IS MY POINT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            YOU DON”T HAVE TO SEE IT. JUST REMOVE IT FROM YOUR VIEWDE FANDOM LIST AND ITS LIKE ITS NOT EVEN THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

            In essence, politics isn’t on Hypable unless you want it there.

          • Tom

            Gary65, what even is this ‘viewed fandom list’ you keep talking about? If you mean the ‘my feed’ thing, I haven’t set that up because I like to read all sorts of posts on here so I don’t see the point.

            Even if I did create an account with a customised feed, the articles would still be on Hypable. I would still see it on my twitter feed. It would still be taking up the time of the writers when I would rather they be writing about something else. And (I think) it would still show up on the homepage and in the ‘hot on hypable’ section.

            You can say ‘just ignore it’, but it’s not that simple.

          • Anonymous

            Well entertainment is everywhere you look too and you never get sick of that. Just admit it. You don’t want politics on Hypable cos it doesn’t interest you, not cos its everywhere. 

          • Anonymous

            Well then set it up. Your laziness is no reason not to have it. You like to read all sorts of posts EXCEPT political ones. So just uncheck politics and your problem is solved.

            WOW!!! Tweets that don’t interest you in your feed. Gimme a break. If you were interested in every tweet that appeared on your feed, you’d practically live on twitter. Whatsmore, it’d be one tweet of the dozens that Hypable would do.

            And as with every other fandom, a politics segment would have its own writers. So it wouldn’t be taking up other writer’s time. It’d be taking up the time of writers you wouldn’t even know existed(and still won’t cos you won’t be reading the politics segment anyway).

            The uncheck mentioned above removes it from the homepage. And if it does appear in the Hot on Hypable section, that means its popular, which is even more reason to put it up.

            Are you really suggesting you have read every single article of the THOUSANDS that are on this site?

    • Luna97831

      WHY NOT? i think it’s fantastic, especially since it’s getting to be such a big issue already in the states. i loved seeing this, which might be weird since i’m a canadian, but i’m proud of loving politics and seeing others’ opinions and views on the 2012 election. good on you, hypable, and although this might not be the standard glee-fare so many people are used to, i loved it. 

  • TL

    While I don’t care whom she supports, I did have an issue with this open letter. The assumption that the vast majority of her fans are “women, homosexual men, their hags, or straight guys majoring in vocal performance” is what I find questionable. 

    I’d venture to bet that she has just as many conservative fans because of her small-town Texas upbringing. Yes, her music leans more towards pop but she’s a country girl, and if the lefties ditch her, she can go full blown pop-country and gain fans too. Also, assuming her liberal fans will disavow her makes them sound less open-minded than the Republicans she supports.

    Then again, this is a purely opinion piece so to each their own.

    • akacj18

      if you read her tweets on the matter, its also very clear that she DOES support equal rights for EVERYONE. plenty of politicians out there (on both sides of the spectrum) have some openly iffy beliefs/policies, and you know what? they’re entitled to their opinions just as much as Kel-Kel is to endorsing Ron Paul. i understand the gravity of the gay rights issue, i really do, but i also believe you can genuinely support a candidate while disagreeing on certain issues. 

      some people are republicans, deal with it. and not all republicans are anti- gay rights. 

      i do also find it suspect when celebrities are called out for being republican while being a democrat is not so much. i feel like it creates a false sense of liberal majority. im not saying its the “liberal media elite” *eye roll* but it does make me wonder 2 things: 1) where are all the republican complainers? or 2) maybe the non-complainers actually have it right most of the time. 

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=20902563 Kristen Kranz

    I don’t object to Hypable reporting that this event happened, but I just hope that this doesn’t become a political bashing site. I respect all of the writers here on Hypable & their opinions (I actually love the columns you all write which are chock full of opinion pieces), but since so many assumptions are made the minute someone is labeled Democrat/Republican or Liberal/Conservative, I just hope that you respect that your readers don’t want to read articles that are condemning to one belief or another. On the other hand, healthy debate does give everyone better understanding… So I guess I’m just saying, Tread carefully! 

  • http://twitter.com/justy84wvu justy84wvu

    How about we show love to any of the pop stars. I doubt Lady GaGa or Madonna know who their fans are either. Let’s leave that line pretty general.

  • Alcyone

    Sorry, but what a stupid letter. I’m a big fan of Kelly Clarkson, and I would vote for Ron Paul in a heartbeat. Just because a few of her fans didn’t like her endorsement, doesn’t mean you can generalize those feelings to all her fans.

    “As a diva it’s your responsibility to take gays, hags and voice majors under your wing and protect them from the perils of life.” ….. um seriously? You tell her not to express her opinion just because “gays, hags, and voice majors” are fans of hers? I’m pretty sure “gays, hags, and voice majors” can be fans of artists, entertainers, authors, actors, etc from any genre. There is no reason everyone needs to walk on eggshells just to keep a few people happy.

    P.S. If you really feel strongly about her endorsement, publish this open letter on your personal blog or something, NOT on Hypable.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1683360003 Paige Barton

    why wasn’t there an article about Alec Baldwin publicly endorsing Obama on twitter? (his twitter is gone, now, but when it was up and running that’s all he would talk about)

    • Anon8

      I think it was because everyone already assumes Hollywood is liberal, so when a celebrity wavers from the norm, and their fandom then freaks out(generally), it is then news worthy and interesting to dissect what happened and why.

  • katie

    Incredible indeed is the number of people who can’t read. Nowhere did John bring his personal political stance into this article. Nowhere did he say “yay Democrats” and “boo Republicans”. He was discussing Kelly and her fan base.
    If you would like to rip apart a celebrity for endorsing a Democrat, please submit through the “News By You”, conveniently located at the top of the page. But please, like John, discuss the celebrity and not yourself.

  • Anonymous

    Wow I could have sworn that this sight was to bring people who enjoyed the same fandoms together. Must have been wrong :/

  • Anon

    I think it is ridiculous that people are upset that Hypable posted an article that was political and controversial in nature. In my opinion, I think it should be done more often since celebrities’ political stances (especially now that we are in the thick of the 2012 republican race for presidential election) are just as newsworthy and interesting, sometime more so, than spoilers for tv shows and the like that is normally posted on Hypable. I think it’s good sometimes to break up the monotony and question our beliefs and actions. This article, in my opinion, is important and noteworthy because the republican nomination is on the minds of most of Americans at this moment in time.

    As for the John’s letter: I think, whether people want to hear it or not, it makes a good point. I don’t really listen to Kelly or particularly know who her fan base is but if her fan base is truly composed of homosexuals, hags, and voice majors then there is definitely merit to what John says. While hasn’t been proven, Ron Paul has been accused of horrible slander towards homosexuals and has spoken out against gay marriage. On that note, yes, that might turn some people off. On the other hand, I’m not going to start hating a celebrity that I am a fan of just because of their political stance. I may not agree with what they believe but Kelly has said that she supports gay marriage and she doubts Ron Paul will get the bid. So, really, what’s the problem here? More than anything, the hate she received as a result of her declaration is really disheartening and sad. Republicans unfortunately get a lot of bad rap mostly because of the ridiculousness of the republican candidates for 2012. Those who are more worthy, in my opinion, of the bid for the republican candidate aren’t even running because they know it’s pretty pointless against Obama.

    As for Blake, I’ve never really had a problem with him and I know that he probably meant only to support Kelly (I know she was getting a lot of unnecessary hate) but seriously? Punching someone in the throat? Have some class. Do not counter violence and hate with more violence and hate. That, honestly, was just stupid.

    • katie

      This is possibly the most intelligent comment on this article.

  • http://twitter.com/BrittanyLeSue Brittany LeSueur

    I don’t think she was really endorsing him, it was clear to me that she was just sharing her opinion. I think she defended herself well. But i do think that it is important for celebs to encourage their fans to get informed but heavy endorsing or bashing should not be done to such a large, uneducated and heavily influenced audience 

  • http://profiles.google.com/keaton.brower Keaton Brower

    Guys, John’s point isn’t that Kelly’s endorsing a Republican. It’s the fact that this Republican does not support equality, and many of her fans need the equality Senator Paul fights so hard against. She’s ostracizing the people who got her where she is.

    Thank you for sharing this piece with us, John.

    • Ilikecheesegirl

      But, you see, Ron Paul has not “fought so hard against” equal rights. You might want to do a bit of research.

  • http://hypable.com John Thrasher

    I really do appreciate everyone’s views and opinions! I just want to reiterate that I am not judging Kelly for endorsing Ron Paul. I’m simply saying she shouldn’t be so surprised when her fan base (mainly liberal people if one had to assume) isn’t responding favorably to her decision! I am okay with her being political, I wrote it in the letter!

    • katie

      Aw! I’m sorry people can’t read.

      • http://hypable.com John Thrasher

        Haha, I think people are just jumping the gun here, which happens from time to time. I didn’t know so many people aren’t fans of me! Geezzzz… :)

        • Katelyn

          Oh, I think you’re an a-okay person, no worries about that.  I just think your article is crap. :D

    • Fravit

      And how exactly is that news? Is the news here that you wrote her a letter and expressed your views? What did you want from your viewership, a pat on the back?

      Reporting on a backlash caused by something Kelly said on her Twitter would’ve been a more mature, unbiased and credible way to report on this (because, honestly, I didn’t even know what you were talking about in this article until I went and researched it - you spend all of a few lines “running it by us quickly”, effectively making the real news take a back seat to your opinion.) This would’ve allowed for viewers to make up their own minds about the subject and debate it intelligently. However, you, like many other writers on this site, decided to treat this like your personal blog and write about your feelings, polarizing this argument from the get-go. Is that what you guys are going for? It certainly feels this way as of late.

      And make no mistake, chances are you and I share similar if not the same political views. But this probably wasn’t the right way to go about this article. Also, I think your responses to many of the comments made here and been a tad immature and at times somewhat insulting. There really isn’t an excuse for this. As we all know, “with great power comes great responsibility.” As senior editor, you should be aware of this.

      In regards to one of your other comments down the line, Katelyn mentions that you’re an a-okay person. I don’t know you, but I feel this is probably true. Take no personal offense to these comments, mine or anyone’s. But I do hope that you’ll learn from them and help improve this site. I think that’s all I’m going to say on the matter. Good day sir, and Happy New Year.

    • Ilikecheesegirl

      So you assume the only people who like pop music are liberal?

  • Chelsea Rae

    First, I love Kelly Clarkson, even more so now that I’ve found out she is a Republican :)

    Second, not all Republicans are bigoted homophobic assholes

    Third, maybe her endorsing Ron Paul has nothing at all to do with gay rights.  You know, gay rights isn’t the most important political issue in some people’s minds.  Maybe she just strongly likes his fiscal policy ideas, why are you assuming its all about gay rights?  It makes absolutely no sense…

  • Ben

    Really? If you can’t listen to someone just because they don’t agree with you politically, that says a lot about how insecure you are in your own beliefs. I guess it’s not a problem for a liberal looking to boycott the few Pop Music and Hollywood folks who leans right – but good grief, if I used that same methodology – I’d be stuck listening to Country music and …. well Kelly Clarkson!

  • PotionWillow207

    I think it’s very gutsy of John to post a politically charged article on a fan site that must be largely populated by people who are not of a voting age, and probably don’t know much about political issues (sad, but likely true). I agree with the point that it’s good of her to reveal her political views to the public since this will hopefully raise awareness. However, there are some issues with the open letter that I would like to point out.

    First, it is unfair (and probably false) to say that 99.999% of her fans are women, homosexuals, hags and straight men who are vocal majors as there is no evidence to back this up. And I understand that fans can be fickle in terms of loyalty, but to assume that they will start dropping her because of this is absurd considering that a large part of her fan base is too young to vote and likely doesn’t care about her political affiliation (again, sad but likely true).

    Second, even if the bulk of her fans are what you claim why should that stop her from publicizing her political beliefs. I personally would never in a million years vote for Ron Paul (although I do like some of his fiscal ideas), however to each their own. If she thinks he is capable of being a good president, and is willing to publicly admit this then more power to her. I know that you SAY you appreciate her openness, but then you tell her it probably wasn’t the best idea because of who she supports. “Yay for having an opinion” but if you tell us what your opinion is you’ll alienate your fans. ??? So she can have an opinion as long as she keeps it to herself?

    Third, I don’t think it’s her “responsibility to take gays, hags and voice majors under her wing and protect them from the perils of life.” That’s not anyone’s responsibility. Everyone has “perils,” and we all have to learn that (to quote the wise Rafiki) we can either run from it or learn from it. Yes, some classes of people struggle more than most, but I would say Kelly has more responsibility to show people how to shine THROUGH the peril, not protect them FROM it.

    Also in her defense, she did clarify her Tweet later by saying she does not support his alleged racial and homophobic remarks. She supports him because he is for less government, which at this point I personally agree with.

    • Jen

      THIS. PRECISELY!!!!!

    • http://hypable.com John Thrasher

      I didn’t read this entire comment, but the letter was definitely sarcastic in tone and meant to be read comedically. Geesh!

      • PotionWillow207

        Based on the sentiments being expressed it the comments, it didn’t come across as sarcastic and comedic. Politics is a touchy subject, and since you apparently know at least a little about the subject you should have been aware that this would be a very controversial subject. Perhaps next time you want to write an article like this you should state up front that it is being written as a joke or spoof if that is your intention.

        I don’t know much about you, but clearly you take writing seriously even if it isn’t what you do professionally. If that is the case, you should be aware that intention needs to be stated with more clarification in writing than if you were speaking face to face with a person. Tone and expression don’t translate well to the written word. Keep that in mind for future opinion pieces.

      • Specialagentlilia

        John, I think it was rather obvious that the letter had a sarcastic, humorous tone. Even as a conservative (who SUPPORTS gay rights and is not a racist), i was not offended by the article. However, its a simple fact that people get extremely agitated over politics, especially seeing as this is an election year. I think most people just don’t want to hear it. For that reason, it might be best to keep politically “biased” articles off the site in the future, but it’s not like I’m going to stop coming here just because of one article. And also, try not to trip on the poles up people’s asses. :)

  • Anonymous

    WHO FREAKING CARES!?  And by the way, you are being so much more prejudice than whatever crazy version of Ron Paul you’ve come up with.  You assume that the only people who listen to Kelly Clarkson are gay or girls, and then assume that because they are gay and girls, they only can be liberal.  This is incorrect and rather prejudice.

  • akacj18

    kelly clarkson is a f****** rock star. and she’s crazy likable. i really don’t think she’s going to have to worry about losing any fans. her celebrity status does not exclude her from speaking her opinion. 

    this is also another case of social networking creating a much greater hub-bub than would occur in real life, that is to say, in the physical world, and not the cyber world. if kelly clarkson’s opinions weren’t tweeted immediately to millions of followers, this would probably not even register as worthwhile news.

  • Hehedied

    hey why the britney spears diss!!! not nice.. i love her. Hey john are you gay?

  • Brian

    I don’t mind politics being discussed on Hypable.  I do mind political arguments that are senseless and hateful.  First, Ron Paul, as a libertarian, is the most gay-friendly Republican in the race.  He voted against a constitutional amendment defining marriage between a man and a women.  

    Secondly, I find it incredibly offensive that you would brand about a third of the people in this country, people who consider themselves republican or conservative, as having the personal view that women, gays, and performance majors are ‘less than’ they are.  I’m a republican and certainly don’t think that any of those groups are ‘less than’ me (in fact, I am gay) and I sincerely doubt Clarkson believes that either.  

    And lastly, I hope all your readers can see the resemblance of your argument that Kelly Clarkson should keep her political opinions to herself, with the views of social conservatives that gays should keep their sexuality to themselves.  No one should have to live with the fear of censorship, and if Clarkson’s fans would abandon her over her endorsement of Paul, then they’re really no fans at all.

    • http://hypable.com John Thrasher

      What have I said that was hateful, Brian? It was about her reaction to her fans not who or what she endorses!

  • Purdypirate

    I cannot believe this would be posted on this site. This is completely stupid. I understand the poster is a Democrat apparently but this is NOT the place for political opinion posts. Period. 

  • Purdypirate

    You’re a ‘Senior Editor’? Seriously? I am so done with Hypable if it is going to start this kind of trash. Keep with the entertainment. Leave politics and gossip for another site.

    • http://hypable.com John Thrasher

      This was a headline-making news story the last few days. Not gossip.

      • Jennifer Scheidegger

        Was it headline- making news? I hadn’t heard of this story until I came here and saw it (It is possible that I missed it, I’m not a huge Kelly or Ron Paul fan) As an editor and writer, surely you know the importance of how the media sets the agenda and decides what is news and what is not. You decided to make it a news story (or make it even more news- worthy)  by writing about it. This is why you will never write a critical letter to a celebrity who endorses Obama or any other democrat, because you don’t feel that there is any need to alert anyone to it.

  • Katelyn

    Dear Hypable and John-John T., 

    Right, because only people who are pro-choice and pro-gay rights are allowed to be taken seriously anymore.  And it’s totally okay for Hypable authors to make ridiculous assumptions about people with different political or moral beliefs than them, especially when they’re fan articles promoted to the status of staff articles by their presence in the main feed. And it’s really cool to use SUPER DE-DUPER condescending language in their articles.  

    If you want to talk about alienating a significant portion of one’s audience, try looking in the mirror.  Trashing someone because she alienates her audience by looking down on people with different beliefs…isn’t that EXACTLY what this article is doing?  This article isn’t about Kelly Clarkson.  It’s about how it’s apparently not okay to be anything but a liberal Democrat if you’re a public figure. Shame on you, Hypable, for publishing such drivel.  

    Though, I still love you, Hypable.  

    Best,

    Katelyn S. 

    • http://hypable.com John Thrasher

      I didn’t read this whole comment, but I think you missed my point…it was about her reaction to her fans rather than what or who she endorsed. Did you read, “The first is that I think it’s great that you are bringing political awareness to your followers and fans. A girl you might know named Lady Gaga does this and has cultivated a following the likes of which we haven’t seen since Madonna. You have many young fans who adore you and bringing current world issues to their attention with the influence that you have is one gift that not many people are lucky enough to receive in their lifetimes.”

      • Katelyn

        Well, I read your whole article and comment, and I’d hope that you’d at least give me the same snarky courtesy if you were going to respond to me.  I did read that section. I also continued to read, where you said, “In other words, yay for having an opinion but do realize that the people that buy your songs and albums may be turned off by your personal belief in wanting them or their loved ones to be considered ‘less than’ you. As a diva it’s your responsibility to take gays, hags and voice majors under your wing and protect them from the perils of life. ”

        Let’s dissect exactly where I take issue, so I can be clear. 

        “Yay for having an opinion but…” – Reduces her position to a mere opinion, not something to be taken seriously or given respect.
        “… do you realize that people that buy your songs and albums may be turned off by your personal belief….” – Valid point, but “personal belief” again devalues her stance.  
        “…in wanting them or their loved ones to be considered ‘less than you…” – This is the heart of my frustration.  We don’t know if Kelly is pro or against gay rights, and just because she says she supports one candidate doesn’t automatically mean that she agree with everything he says.  It means that, at the least, she thinks he is the least of many evils. Furthermore, not supporting gay rights doesn’t automatically mean that you believe someone is less human and less worthy of human dignity. It means that they have a different position on the issue of marriage and relationships. For a movement that expounds tolerance for all, there seems to be very little tolerance for people with a different worldview.
        “…as a diva…perils of life.” – No, she only has an obligation to her art, and a responsibility to make money.  Life isn’t an episode of Glee. 

  • http://about.me/dshana Shana Debusschere

    I really don’t mind this sort of content being on here, but maybe the ‘open letter’ content belongs in a column. I do think they are doing nothing wrong with letting us know that Kelly Clarkson tweeted this. I also think John Trasher is not doing anything wrong with sharing his political views, although they, like I said, probably belong in a column. 

  • Amy

    to everyone who is annoyed to have to read something slightly political: boo hoo! get over it. and stop pretending that politics isn’t important. you’re fooling yourself, if you think you can keep it out of your life. i’m so sick of this ignorant attitude a lot of people seem to have noawadays (not following what goes on in politics and certainly not wanting to express or hear an opinion on it). >.<

  • DreamNox58

    Wow, I agree that politics are not exactly a fandom, however, Kelly Clarkson does belong on hypable, in the music section, where this is.  This is just an opinion, no need to bash it or argue with it.  Read it and move on.  Also, I do not think Blake Shelton should have said he would throat punch someone for her.  That part was not cool.

  • Hypable Fan

    Dear John,
    This is a case where you are taking your “responsibility” as a blogger too seriously. Everyone is entitled to having an opinion even if it is not the “correct” one. You have made assumptions as to how other people will react and this is not the place for it. You can defend yourself all you want but that letter was not well put together, well thought out or well written. Do not mistake taking on Kelly Clarkson for taking Ron Paul to task. If she has hit a nerve with you by stating her beliefs then you are able to deal with this by not purchasing her music any longer if you feel that strongly. You are trying to influence other people’s opinions just as much or more by publishing this on this site.
    I have a lot of respect for Andrew Simms and the work he did on the Muggle Net site, I would have thought he had enough influence and good sense on Hypable not to let it become a place for these types of discussions.
    Politics is far more polarizing and divisive then any other discussion that can be had here. People can discuss team Edward or Jacob or Gael or Peeta without completely alienating one another. The same cannot be said for issues as politically charged as democrat or republican or gay rights or religion.
    If you choose to go down this road than you need to have people who blog with both political views or don’t publish at all. I for one am not for stepping on people’s rights, any of them, and that includes a pop star’s. I think you are not giving people enough credit for being able to form their own opinions regardless of what celebrities endorse.
    Sometimes in the heat of the moment something can hit a nerve and that can override good sense before we hit the send button. I think Kelly Clarkson found that out and I hope that you are not so entrenched in your opinion that you can’t take in that lesson as well.
    Thanks for listening,
    Fan of the site

    • http://hypable.com John Thrasher

      I didn’t read this whole thing, but I’m assuming since you didn’t spell Andrew’s last name correctly, or the site he previously worked for, that you might not be such a credible source! haha!

      • Anonymous

        How about you let go of your ego and read her damn comment since she took the time to read your letter.

      • Hypable Fan

        That was a very immature response. I do read both sites but did not take the tme to go back and spell check the site name or his name. Up until the most recent Potter film I checked their website daily and now occasionally. I find your article and your response to everyone’s opinions to be very immature for someone with the word senior in their title. Is that the most intelligent thing you could come up with? Very sad.

      • Jen

        and since we’re being immature, deleting my comment for essentially calling you a mediocre writer doesn’t change the facts darling judging by the silly piece you did on halloween about the potters.
        you talking about credibility is laughable after this piece and for you to post a piece on HP claiming you were friends with the potters or something… just embarrassing.  
        i know you’re going to delete this too but at least you read it right? haha!! 

      • DreamNox58

        I didn’t read the whole comment either but I’m going through and reading yours, haha and I had to go back in and find where they spelled Andrews last name wrong, lol.  I hope he sees that.  I’m sure you would have told him though.

      • Ilikecheesegirl

        Wow.
        I certainly hope you are reprimanded for the rude and immature comments you are making, Mr. Thrasher.

      • Nathan

        …wow…..you could have at least been mature and finished reading this comment

  • Lorena

    Hey look, how many Democratic candidates have been have been endorsed by stars? So, it’s ok to endorse a Democrat candidate, but if one endorses a Republican…well, one is a “clueless pop star” 
    I’m not saying I like Ron Paul (at all, kind of out there), but this is bulls***! 
    To name a few: Ben Affleck, Jessica Alba, Jennifer Hudson and Brad Pitt all endorsed Barack Obama in 2008.*
    And as to her ‘protecting’ her fan base, I think most of them are adults. They are capable of protecting themselves. At least they should be if they are adults. Good for her. She has an opinion, you don’t like it? So. What. Don’t buy her stuff then. Seems a bit extreme, since I love her stuff. If I only bought music from musicians who’s political/personal life I agreed with, I wouldn’t buy very many songs from my fav artists. 
    So, that’s my take on the whole thing. 
    *Wikipedia (love that site)

  • Jennifer Scheidegger

    This site is all about bringing fans together. So it makes absolutely no sense why John would decide to post something about politics, which is so divisive  and completely the opposite of bringing the varied and diverse fans of hypable together. 

  • Argent

    Actually, I know of a large following of straight, non-vocal performance majoring males who are die hard Kelly Clarkson fans, myself included. I feel mainly ashamed that Hypable would allow for an opinion piece like this (judgmental and spreading untruthful claims) to be posted. Honestly, for a guy who graduated with a BA in “professional writing,” your opinion piece is pretty unprofessional, John. 

    • Anonymous

      I personally, am appalled that you are insinuating that the writer doesn’t have the right to his opinion, the freedom of speech to express it, and the freedom of expression to post it on Hypable. 

      • Ilikecheesegirl

        I personally am appalled that the writer is insinuating that Kelly doesn’t have the right to her opinion, the freedom of speech to express it, and the freedom of expression to post it on her twitter.

  • Jen

    John, Honey
    i have lost a lot of respect for you for this article-if thats what th this is. there is absolutely no point to it what so ever. it is neither here nor there. it is not at all factual, you made a lot of assumptions with offends a lot of people and whats worst it is not even well written! using condenscending language does not go down well with me at all. there are so many things wrong with this i can’t even….
    WHO ARE YOU to tell anyone about what their ‘responsibilities’ are or should be?
    this is the stupidest, most hypocritical thing i have ever read on here- and that is saying something!

  • Eric Knight

    So people should only stand up for what they believe in if those beliefs are popular? Who are you to tell anyone how they should think or act?

    Honestly, are celebrities only supposed to endorse democrats?

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=25309901 Rachel Paxton-Gillilan

    I thought the article was great.  The title makes it pretty clear that it is “political” and an opinion.  No one is making anyone open the article; if you don’t want to read it just scroll past it.  I think everyone should just calm down.

  • tidefan1987

    The sales on Amazon of her new record have skyrocketed since her tweet, she up from #41 to #14.  It seems she may have lost some fans, but gained new ones.  I do not like Ron Paul’s foreign policy stances at all, in fact they are pretty crazy, but his domestic policy on spending is what is attracting many of his followers.  They are sick and tried of the Federal Government spending us into oblivion.  Right now they are ignoring the foreign policy positions, but eventually they will realize that those stances are ridiculous and as Kelly said it is unlikely that he will get the nomination. 

  • http://hypable.com John Thrasher

    Though some people are extra mean in these comments, if there’s one thing I am glad to see it’s that people are taking the time to think about politics and how it intertwines with celebrities and pop culture. 

    For those who hate politics on fan sites, in 2012 it’s going to be hard to dodge it…especially with surprises like Kelly’s. 

    I would like to point out for a third time, I am not coming down on Kelly for endorsing anyone! The sarcastic letter was written as a joke response to her reaction to her fans on Twitter! Come on guys, I’m not that serious of a guy! :)

    • Neonhide

      You definitely got people talking. I think it’s a good thing. But I think it’s a bit funny that you were telling Kelly how she should not be surprised about her fans reaction, when a similar thing is happening to you now. Know your fanbase/readers! I enjoy posts like these, so keep them coming. But expect OPINIONS and be open for discussion :)

  • Katelyn

    Kelly’s sales are now up 192% after the tweet in question.   You tell me who her fan base is. 

  • Hehedied26

    John, i totally understand where you coming from. Kelly being the Celebrity AKA Role-model she is shouldn’t be talking Politics, I know “Freedom of Speech” is so Huge, but again being a “Role-Model” you can really offend a lot of fans….. Hell i was offended. Nice Article john.   

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1535113683 Henry Collazo

    John, i totally understand where you coming from. Kelly being the Celebrity AKA Role-model she is shouldn’t be talking Politics, I know “Freedom of Speech” is so Huge, but again being a “Role-Model” you can really offend a lot of fans….. Hell i was offended. Nice Article john.   

  • Anon8

    I loved this! My favorite part was “A personal letter…Dear Kel-Kel” lol. I would agree with this more though if
    A) Kelly didn’t support gay rights. She came on later and said that she did support gay rights and did not know RP was against them.

    B) I thought Ron Paul was anti-gay. There is actually a campaign video floating around denouncing RP as Republican because he is the only canidate to say that he would sign a gay rights bill and would not try to go against Congress or the Supreme Court if they did anything for gay rights. He has been quoted saying that “he thinks the government should be out of it” Later, Kelly said the freedom-of-the-people stance is why she likes him.
      
    For the record, I’m not sure where I ever stand politically and just wanted to throw this tidbit out there. I like this article because I think Hypable is very discussion-based and this is an interesting, pop-culture discussion.

  • Askingwillis

    Regardless of what everyone here may think, this does belong here. This is an entertainment fandom site (that includes Kelly Clarkson), and for many, including myself, politics IS ENTERTAINING! Besides, he didn’t even state his political views here, he simply said that he didn’t think it was the best move (career-wise) for her to publicly state her views, which is absolutely correct; considering her fan-base is mostly the demographic that the candidate isn’t supporting.

  • Seth B

    I understand completely that this was a joke. However, I think all of the argument that resulted from this post is proof that bringing even an ounce of politics onto the site will ensue in ugly fan argument. Surely, that’s not what you want. I am republican, but I support gay rights, along with a lot of others. I don’t agree with a lot of the things Ron Paul says, but I am going to stand up for my beliefs (like Kelly). Politics, no matter how small or no matter which side it favors, does not belong on Hypable.

  • Alva

    Ahaha that just made my day. Thank you! :)

  • Alexis J.

    This isnt the first post that i’ve read by John Thrasher based on political opinions. The last time I stated that hypable isn’t a place for this; hypable is a place for fans of certain fandoms to be updated on what they love and discuss in a good environment that fandom with other fans. Thats why its here and thats why we love it. Yes, we can post our opinions, but not when the said opinion has absolutely nothing to do with what this site is about. These kinds of posts are what personal blogs are for, not for hypable.

  • http://www.facebook.com/iDomi Domi Ed

    I would LOVE for hypable to have a separate site for REAL NEWS.
    I know that’s just a shit ton of more work but…it would be nice to hear what you have to say about some things.

    I’m still missing Smartmouths…

    Everyone stop bitching at John. He can post what he wants, its his own personal opinion on a celebrity and the candidate she wants to vote for
    If you don’t care about this kinda stuff. Don’t read it…

  • Ilikecheesegirl

    How does endorsing Ron Paul have ANYTHING to do with homosexuality or feminism, as you article seems to suggest?
    Whether you like Paul or not, he voted to repeal “don’t-ask-don’t-tell” and has stated that he supports the right of gay people to marry as long as it isn’t “imposed” on anyone else and simply doesn’t think the federal government should have anything to do with it.
    Just because he’s conservative doesn’t mean he’s anti-gay or anti-women or anti-”vocal majors”.
    You might want to do a little research before writing a political article on a subject you don’t seem to be very informed about!
    Sincerely,
    A woman who doesn’t feel like Ron Paul violates the civil liberties of herself or anybody else, even if she doesn’t want him as president.

  • Nathan

    I think it is great that you have political opinions and all but this just seems like you’re hating on republicans because I agree with what Jennifer Scheidegger said and that is if a celebrity endorsed a democrat than no one would write a letter like this to them. I understand how you feel she shouldnt haveendorsed him but maybe she felt she should have. It was her choice not yours and everyone whether they be democrat, independent, AND republican can endorse whoever they want just please don’t start making all of these posts anti-republican because I’m one and I like this site.

  • Rafrey

    As a gay liberal, i feel that this letter is somewhat unnecessary. to let her know who her fan base is? sure, but she is in no way has a responsibility to anyone even her fans to “protect them” or whatever. And everyone keeps bashing on Ron Paul. Has he said some horrible things before? yes. However if you watch is more recent interviews on TV with some rather vocal homophobes, he actually seems to disagree with how they view many issues, one of them being homosexuality. I personally think his stance on this issue has changed since his horrid comments in the past. And out of all the republicans running, so far, Ron Paul is the most level headed they have. (just my opinion)

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